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of the food reliable 1947 be on the air

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for professionals been applying this -

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found and is now in the possession of

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the on a name is rig changed the game

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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network and K GRA the Global Radio

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you're listening today to dad

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with Jimmy judge on the game changing

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for Masse's yeah man how you do and how

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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California I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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either until there to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is faith the black 4k JCR the

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game-changer network

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and kg our ages of planets

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I'm your Jimmy Church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing how you doing

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tonight Bruce are Fenton is here live

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from the United Kingdom we're gonna be

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discussing the release of his new book

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XO Genesis hybrid humans a scientific

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history of extraterrestrial genetic

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manipulation co-authored with his wife

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tomorrow night is another Fator night

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with open lines all night long now a

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little bit later out on the show I'm

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going to talk about fate or night

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tomorrow night and I'm going to give you

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some homework for the show tomorrow

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night yeah yeah Jimmy kashkin yeah

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homework pop quiz I'm not kidding I'm

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not kidding so we'll get into that in

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just a bit and very excited about the

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show tonight Bruce is a great researcher

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his wife is great and the last book is

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yeah it's gonna be a great conversation

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so follow me on twitter at jth radio you

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can start there make Orwell fiction

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again Martha so that's is that a Martha

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that's pretty good that's pretty good

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that's for mark over in Australia it's

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pretty good mark that's pretty good

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all right follow me on twitter IG Church

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radio hashtag f2 B is the sandbox on

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tonight off man you know what after last

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night Dell big tree right after the

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night me for think about this Nadine

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hybrid humans man man man

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Twitter's gonna be on fire tonight okay

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and by the way you know the cranky old

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gonna let loose yet but man I'm getting

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close I'm getting so close I'm getting

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so close to just and to just I don't

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I'm close though it could be any knight

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any knight is gonna be the night my

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brother-in-law my brother-in-law and I

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big he's the best and we tease each

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other we've been doing it for a better

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part of 10 years tonight's the night man

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you and I this is so funny and you know

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I'm just saying it get happen anytime

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make it happen anytime and I only bring

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that up because Rita's word of the day

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more ass and I so I so want to get

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do it I'm just not gonna do it I'm not

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gonna do it I'm waiting for the text the

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text is gonna come in Jimmy don't do it

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don't not tonight not tonight tonight's

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not the night come on church don't do it

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but the word of the day is morass and

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there you go I'll leave it to the rest

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of you it's a wonderful wonderful word

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so there you go what a great day today

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I'm in a great mood I can't wait for a

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Bruce Fenton at the bottom of the hour

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like I said it's very simple follow me

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on Twitter I teach Hertz radio hashtag

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hashtag f2b Q is fade to black

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questions

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nothing else because it just gets

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scrolling and looking for things I just

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want to see questions and hashtag if f

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to be Q write a hashtag F to be Q yeah I

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said it right okay you can also email

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throughout the show Jimmy and Jimmy

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Church radio.com del big tree on the

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show last night talking about the corona

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virus vaccine and it was at times scary

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had to step back and go okay that that

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right there is scary that's scaring me

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the the one point that we can walk away

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from with Dell out of the hundred that

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were presented on the show last night is

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it's the vaccine you know or whatever

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for a certain group but what you need to

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do is get your immune system boosted

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that's what you need you need to make

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sure that all of your liquids are topped

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off topped off that's it that's what

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you've got to do go to get the t.com go

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to get the t.com and get their immunity

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special that's what you do the package

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is right there and you can start with

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okay head over to get the T comm all

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it is truly the fuel that keeps this

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Jimmy is waiting for this moment what is

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that that that's a ho ho hold on I want

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to see this this gift what's the moment

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there what is the moment I need the

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moment I agree with the gift but what's

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the moment I'm waiting for oh I'm

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waiting for people like Franky four

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fingers to only post questions in

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hashtag f2b q that's the moment I'm

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waiting for then that gif applies yeah

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all right where am i hat let's just get

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right back to it for bid now it's a TV

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River moon coffee River moon coffee calm

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over two meters radio calm so get

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straight to the breaking news I got a

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ton of it astronomers are praising space

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the visibility of the company's star

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observatories that's right as SpaceX

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satellites reflect down to earth they've

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sent a couple of they painted and

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they've got some share they got some

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things that they're doing not good

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enough but they're working on it

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so-called mega constellation that the

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companies plan to develop these programs

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aspire to encompass are you ready

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thousands even tens of thousands of

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fleet of hundreds in orbit and that

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huge increase in satellites reflecting

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streaks of light at scientific

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soon after each StarLink launch before

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the satellites reach their final orbital

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altitude of 340 miles since they can be

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seen by the naked eye but operational

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satellites continue to interfere with

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sensitive observatories they're working

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watches and all of us of having done it

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out I do want to see it though I do want

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to see it now two headlines hit the news

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headline number one Russian nuclear

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capable bombers intercept US aircraft

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near Alaska headline number two US

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intercepts Russian bombers and fighter

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jets off coast of Alaska okay

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one was from Fox News the other from CNN

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and they are opposites there you go

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which one would you click on which one

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is accurate well that's for you to

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decide I'm just gonna leave all of this

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on the table right here moving on all

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right a report just published by

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Aviation Week says that a hypersonic

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bomber in mid-flight during a test

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destroying the high-tech and secretive

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munition now the test saw the missile a

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hypersonic air-breathing weapon concept

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otherwise known as a hawk a joint

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project of the Air Force and Defense

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Advanced Research Projects Agency

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inadvertently separated from the b-52

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that was carrying it and crashed to the

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ground below though DARPA declined to

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provide further details stating that all

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information on flight on the flight

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demonstration is classified

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it is thought to have occurred near

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Edwards Air Force Base right down the

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street here in California where the

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military conduct all of those secret

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UFO programs um you know new military

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systems as well it's right at the street

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right at the street well today the

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journal Nature communications has just

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published a report that physicists set a

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new record by linking together 15

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trillion atoms by using quantum

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the researchers heated a small glass

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tube filled with vaporized rubidium and

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an inert gas and nitrogen gas to 350

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degrees Fahrenheit and then shot a beam

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of polarized light at it the when the

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researchers measure the rotation of the

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light waves that come out of the other

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determine the total spin of the gas

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atoms now that consequently transfers

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the entanglement onto the atoms and

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leaves them in an entangled State

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the atoms were in what physicists call a

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macroscopic spin singlet state say that

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five times a collection of pairs of

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entangled particles total spins that sum

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zero the initially entangled atoms

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passed their entanglement to each other

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via collisions in the game of you know

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quantum tag exchanging their spins but

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keeping the total spin at zero and

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allowing the collective entanglement

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state to persist for at least a

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millisecond for instance particle a is

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entangled with particle B but when

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particle B hits particle C it links both

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particles with particles C and so on got

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it I know that et gets it that's all I

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need to know I'll leave you with these

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two breaking stories at least 12 cities

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and municipalities in the United States

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are starting to ban or

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have banned the use of chokeholds by the

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police

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those include Phoenix Los Angeles

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Sacramento San Diego Broward County

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Florida Miami Chicago Washington

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Washington DC Minneapolis New York City

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Denver and Houston and earlier today

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NASCAR announced that it will no longer

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allow the Confederate flag to be

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displayed at all of their events and

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properties there you go the Star Wars

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UFOs and artificial intelligence

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conference in Laughlin Nevada it's going

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on November 5th through the 8th at the

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Aquarius Hotel & Casino is bigger and

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better than ever grant Cameron's gonna

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be there Paul hynek's gonna be there Sid

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Goldberg's gonna be there James Fox is

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gonna be there I'm gonna be there Reed

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is gonna be there the fade to black Cruz

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is gonna be there we're gonna do two

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nights November 5th and 6th Thursday

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night Friday night sky watches yeah and

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you know you want to be there just go to

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Star Wars usa.com for tickets and info

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disclosure fest biggest event in the

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world 20,000 attendees at the historic

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Los Angeles Park in downtown Los Angeles

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is going on on my birthday October 10th

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2020 I want you to visit disclosure fest

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org for tickets and info on how to get

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registered and how to support how to

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donate all of the initiatives for

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disclosure fest I'll be hosting I'll be

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speaking we're gonna be doing fader X

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it's gonna be great

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let's get this show crackin happy

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birthday to today bill burr 52 years old

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Elizabeth Hurley 55 drummer Jimmy

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Chamberlin is 56 Smashing Pumpkins and

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comedian rich Hall is 66 years old our

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dead guy's birthday today is Judy

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Garland 1922 to 1969 died at the age of

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47 played Dorothy Gale in The Wizard of

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Oz that's all you need to know on this

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day in history oh TD 1692

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in Salem Village in the Massachusetts

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Bay Colony Bridget bishop the first

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colonists to be tried in the Salem witch

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trials is hung after being found guilty

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of the practice of witchcraft on the

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stay o T DS 1692 thater fact the first

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person to get a PhD in computer science

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in the United States I'm gonna say it

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again the first person to get a PhD in

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computer science was sister Mary

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Kenneth Keller BVM and she earned a PhD

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from the computer sciences department at

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the University of Wisconsin in 1965

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sister Mary was indeed a nun her first

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dissertation inductive interference on

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computer generated patterns focused on

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constructing algorithms I'm quoting here

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from the paper focus on constructing

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algorithms that performed analytic

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different ation an algebraic expression

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written in CDC Fortran 63 and quote

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Clark College has established the Mary

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Kenneth Keller computer science

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scholarship in her honor that is your

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favor factor all right tonight Bruce r

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Fenton is here it's hybrid humans all

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night long I got to hit this River moon

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coffee because now I'm gonna discuss

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all right River moon coffee how many

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times has something strange happened to

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you yeah something totally unexplainable

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you know when you're scratching your

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head you're spending time thinking about

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it and then you just move on how many

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times this happened you know because the

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next day arrives and whatever went on

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the day before is sort of well you know

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it's forgotten in fact something strange

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may happen the next day as well

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forcing the previous day's trip enos for

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their back in your brain it's just the

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way that it is and then the days turn

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into weeks and then into years so many

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events like these can happen to all of

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us nearly every single day we understand

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that but we just dismissed them and move

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on to the next one so I ask all of you

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right now to just stop and think about

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the past go back to a strange occurrence

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that happened many years ago pull up a

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few you can do it you can do it you can

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bring back the memories right and think

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about them now since you've probably

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acquired it a little bit of knowledge

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right about strange phenomena sure since

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the start of the show I've done a lot of

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recalling because I like to just sit

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back and think and think about the past

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you know I go back and I review my

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memory files and there are things there

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I have shared many of with you many of

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those with you over the years and it's

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only because I just didn't think all

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right that's what I do most of the

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little tales that I've talked about here

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on fade to black I've never talked about

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before or

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Just Between the friends that were there

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at the time but then life takes over and

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things kind of move on you know whatever

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and everything's just kind of left to

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the sands of time I've shared with you

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have you seen my dog I've shared with

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you the Zeppelin story the Hollywood

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back house ghost story me getting lost

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in Pasadena back in 1985 I don't like

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talking about that one and so many more

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but these are personal experiences that

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would have never been told again after

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they had happened if it wasn't for this

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show today

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the elf tweeted out my appearance on the

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Karen Reece show from last year and I

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decided to watch the clip because to

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tell you the truth I had never seen it

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and I know I did it but after it was

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done I don't go back and check things

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out you know it's kind of like listening

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to your voice in a recording it sucks

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you know and it's twice as bad Bo and

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it's hi dev video I just don't do it I

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don't watch myself on TV but I did today

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and I'm Karen Reese's program which I'd

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forgotten about I told the story about

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the disappearing house in Indianapolis

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and as I watched I recounted everything

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that happened I was replaying it the day

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my car the Toyota station wagon the

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location and it all went down pretty

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much exactly as I described it for her

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audience and it was a very strange event

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but it was real and this is the tripi

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thing I'm not sure what her live

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audience thought about it but anyone

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else watching and listening to me tell

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the tale probably would think I was nuts

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and maybe making it up I know I would

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seriously okay that's that's just the

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way it is to my memory after that day

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ended I never repeated anything to

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yeah my friends that I brought back to

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show them the house I'm gonna pick up

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some friends two or three and brought it

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back and it wasn't there well they

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thought I had lost my mind they thought

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I was making it up they knew just like I

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knew there were only two streets that

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were in play and we drove up and down

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both of them the house was simply not

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there all I had was my story nothing

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more the whole thing the house the

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memory everything just went away it was

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forgotten you you talking to you you

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have these same memories you do you have

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the same types of memories they're

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buried so just take the time to think to

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get them back and I want you to get out

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of pen and paper and take some notes

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tomorrow night is another Fator night so

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yes this is the homework I'm giving you

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to do I want you to get it done I want

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to hear your stories your experiences

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I'm gonna hear the strange stuff that

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you just couldn't explain you know both

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to yourself if anyone else you have

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plenty of time to get your thoughts in

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order I want you to do it it's easy to

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do it's really easy to do and these

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types of memories are things that you

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just kind of end up dismissing strange

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yes right right because you're not out

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there talking to people about it you

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don't share it just goes it goes on the

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back the next thing you know you're busy

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you got schoolwork jobs family husband

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wife kids everything to deal with you

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don't go back and and and share them so

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they sit because I do it all the time I

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do it all the time just sitting in a

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while that's right that's right I mean

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the have you seen my dog but you think I

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shared that story every day for the rest

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of my life to anybody that I met I know

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my friends and I laughed about it and

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talked about it told a few friends after

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it happened but that's it it's gone it's

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gone until this show zeppelins story or

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told anybody about that never did that

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stayed back it just happened to just

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happen to surface one day and I shared

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it immediately on this show but the

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Pasadena story I never told anybody

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about that you know I did tell people

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hey when a cross street from my house

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got lost for a day just don't do it you

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don't do it so tomorrow night I want to

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hear your lost memories stories that's

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it it's gonna be a great night on the

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show as you peel it back you're gonna

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think of things that you hadn't thought

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of in a long time I guarantee it it's

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great all right let's get out of here

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live from Wales Bruce are fenton he is

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up next we will be talking about his new

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book XO Genesis human hybrids a

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scientific history of extraterrestrial

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genetic manipulation and then of course

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tomorrow night Fator night open lines

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all night long our male Jimmy church

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this is fade to black on the GameChanger

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network and kg are a the planet follow

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me on Twitter right now at J Church

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radio and then hashtag f2b Q is fade to

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black questions only questions

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and guests are good I'll be right back

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Sarah

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[Music]

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this is Nicole Church daughter of

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you-know-who and you're listening to

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fade to black on Jimmy Church radio.com

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and the GameChanger network you're

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[Music]

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are a radio when you take the beams from

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Central America with dashes of

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Indonesian and African mixed in and then

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roast it to the dark side of fade to

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black you create the ultimate brew of

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Fringe introducing the fade to black

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blend from River moon coffee yes River

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moons darkest customized roast was

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created for the love of fade to black

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the alchemy of masterful roasting and

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smoking the beans is in every sip of

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black I am your

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host Jimmy Church I ask you yeah that's

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good that's good tonight Bruce our

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Fenton joins us live from the United

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00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:06,520
Kingdom discussing his new book XO

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00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:08,470
Genesis human hybrids of scientific

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00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:10,410
history of extraterrestrial genetic

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00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:13,330
manipulation co-authored with his wife

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Daniela

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tomorrow night is Fator night open lines

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all night long now Bruce is a British

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00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:24,250
scientific researcher his expeditions

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00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:25,690
have been featured in mainstream

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00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:28,270
newspapers such as the UK's Telegraph

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00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:31,330
and Daily Mail as well as science

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00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:33,550
channels the unexplained files

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Bruce is currently a recurring guest

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00:35:45,210 --> 00:35:41,380
guest expert on ancient aliens I ask you

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yes he's currently appearing in seasons

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14 and 15 he's got two books The

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Forgotten Exodus the into Africa theory

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00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:52,780
of human evolution great book forwarded

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00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:55,930
by Graham Hancock and XO Genesis hybrid

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00:36:00,330 --> 00:35:57,790
humans which we will be discussing

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00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:00,340
tonight his website as Bruce Fenton dot

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00:36:06,359 --> 00:36:03,100
info and the links to his website and

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00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,369
the book are over at Jimmy Trudeau calm

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like to welcome back to fade to black

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Bruce are Fenton you got to have the are

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in there Bruce yeah you know just good

622
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:20,500
for the cover it does it does look good

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00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:22,630
it tells so good can you turn me down in

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00:36:30,270 --> 00:36:26,320
the background sure yes yeah it's okay

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00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:30,280
that's the first order of radio you know

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it always bothers me over the years when

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I would hear a different host code turn

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me down in the background turn me down

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in the background and I say it all the

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00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:45,190
time now it's like bad I'm that guy that

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I just used to just detest but so there

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00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,369
you go ah what's shaking over there

633
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:54,640
what's going on over the pond things I

634
00:36:59,640 --> 00:36:56,830
mean pretty good we we've had well we've

635
00:37:01,440 --> 00:36:59,650
had a fairly nice spell of good weather

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I mean obviously we've got all the other

637
00:37:05,490 --> 00:37:04,000
the problems going on you know lock

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00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:05,500
downs and all that other stuff but the

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00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:06,750
weather's been good

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focus on the positive the I just have to

641
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:16,080
ask you because over here but I always

642
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:18,360
find interesting Bruges is to find out

643
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:22,170
what the headlines are over you know

644
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:23,850
going on over in England about the

645
00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:26,610
United States right and then share with

646
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:29,460
you what we hear about you guys over

647
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:31,140
there we love talking about each other

648
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:36,110
you know we we just never let it go

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00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:40,950
200 220 years and we're still still

650
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:46,040
going at it but the reports about the

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protests that have extended over into

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00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:52,430
the UK and London specifically you know

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00:37:58,670 --> 00:37:55,650
coming off of what happened here in

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Minneapolis and in the United States but

655
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you guys are pulling down statues and

656
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throwing them in rivers and and I saw

657
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:08,010
the reports of looks like Winston

658
00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:12,090
Churchill right and and things pretty

659
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intense end and what do you what do you

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00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:19,800
make of that yeah definitely has spread

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from the u.s. to here I mean absolutely

662
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:24,510
yeah we've had at the same scenario

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where supposedly we were in a lockdown

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and then you know it was not okay to

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protest against that but now it's sort

666
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of seems to be sort of okay to protest

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against any kind of discrimination you

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know you can go out thousands of you can

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gather for that that's kind of okay

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nobody's really explained what the cyano

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the science is on why supposedly one

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protest is bad and other protest is good

673
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but yeah it's been tearing down statues

674
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they've started doing that here as well

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I mean I haven't excused myself I mean I

676
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understand you know I have slave

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00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:02,250
ancestry and I mixed race right so I

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00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:04,080
understand I can get it but the same

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someone I prefer these kind of stats

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will move to a museum right you know

681
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:10,260
it's an appropriate place we don't need

682
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to necessarily need to go all the way to

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going nuts by things to do with weed

684
00:39:18,579 --> 00:39:17,220
being locked down for so long Jimmy you

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00:39:20,739 --> 00:39:18,589
know I've been the same there you know

686
00:39:22,959 --> 00:39:20,749
a perfect storm you know people locked

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00:39:24,549 --> 00:39:22,969
down for ages couldn't go out and

688
00:39:27,209 --> 00:39:24,559
somebody happens to trigger them you

689
00:39:29,859 --> 00:39:27,219
know they they also get a bit wild right

690
00:39:31,209 --> 00:39:29,869
so that's the same scenario here I think

691
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:31,219
we put that overlap you know it's both

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00:39:34,359 --> 00:39:32,390
can we have a lot you know a lockdown

693
00:39:36,789 --> 00:39:34,369
then there's a trigger event and it's

694
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:36,799
kind of everyone's gonna be nuts yeah

695
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:41,839
yeah absolutely right and that's a it's

696
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:46,160
a whole nother show but I definitely

697
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,210
feel that the two as crazy as it sounds

698
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:53,119
are definitely connected you know I you

699
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:56,390
know you you you look it doesn't matter

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00:40:04,209 --> 00:39:58,729
the protests that are going on are

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00:40:07,690 --> 00:40:04,219
needed absolutely 100% needed that's it

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00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:07,700
that's it I get it and I understand why

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00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:12,319
why they are doing it and it's of course

704
00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:15,680
George Floyd and and and that video and

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his death

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00:40:23,469 --> 00:40:19,880
paramount but that's that's just the

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00:40:26,739 --> 00:40:23,479
last thing that has happened we have a

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lot of history across the United States

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and around this planet of things in the

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past and that nobody feels comfortable

711
00:40:39,279 --> 00:40:35,839
talking about because it was just

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00:40:43,769 --> 00:40:39,289
completely wrong wrong wrong wrong okay

713
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,779
yeah but putting that aside with the

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00:40:51,489 --> 00:40:46,400
coronavirus and you lock up the entire

715
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:51,499
planet it doesn't take anything to to

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00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:54,890
ignite right it this happen to be a real

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00:40:59,709 --> 00:40:58,130
big deal that ignited it and there was

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00:41:02,890 --> 00:40:59,719
no way that these protests weren't gonna

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00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:02,900
happen but I'm here to tell you it

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00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:06,380
wouldn't take much of anything else that

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00:41:13,959 --> 00:41:08,890
would make that would get people angry

722
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:13,969
normally it that they're gonna itch to

723
00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:16,640
get out of their house yeah this time

724
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:18,019
around it's for good reason

725
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:21,910
I mean it's for a great reason yeah

726
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:25,249
definitely is you know my view of it is

727
00:41:27,999 --> 00:41:26,930
that of course we've got loads of issues

728
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,009
that need to be resolved

729
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:29,599
you know people you'll want to go into a

730
00:41:33,490 --> 00:41:31,730
better world but at the same time

731
00:41:35,050 --> 00:41:33,500
aware that you know with all these kind

732
00:41:36,910 --> 00:41:35,060
of things that you always got the

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00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:36,920
co-opting you know you've always got the

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00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:39,020
agender in the background so you always

735
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,050
be careful that that whenever you you

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00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:43,520
have a movement of people there doesn't

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00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:46,130
get co-opted by you know influences in

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00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:48,470
the background mm-hmm you know the money

739
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:49,820
and power and that's always the problem

740
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:51,950
with these kind of you know any kind of

741
00:41:55,810 --> 00:41:54,140
situation where the public rises up and

742
00:41:57,790 --> 00:41:55,820
gets you know annoyed enough to really

743
00:41:59,500 --> 00:41:57,800
shout about it there's always people

744
00:42:01,720 --> 00:41:59,510
would like to co-opt that for their own

745
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:01,730
good so I just hope that you know people

746
00:42:06,609 --> 00:42:03,650
are careful you know how they go about

747
00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:06,619
organizing yes they're focused stay

748
00:42:12,190 --> 00:42:08,300
focused stay on message

749
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:12,200
stay on message you know no question

750
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:14,300
about that and you're right it's it's

751
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:16,430
the other interesting part which

752
00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:20,150
actually is is kind of like what your

753
00:42:27,609 --> 00:42:24,740
book is about where you have alternate

754
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:27,619
history you have people with agendas you

755
00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:31,490
never know what the truth is and with

756
00:42:35,950 --> 00:42:33,830
this the the people that want to go and

757
00:42:38,859 --> 00:42:35,960
piggyback on this you know co-opted

758
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:38,869
right and piggyback on us with their own

759
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:42,290
agenda just because they want to grasp

760
00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:46,040
the moment and it's just like well hold

761
00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:49,000
on a minute here yeah we're already

762
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:52,190
confused enough about coronavirus what

763
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:54,050
caused it what didn't cause it is it

764
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,210
safe to go out isn't it do do we have -

765
00:43:00,190 --> 00:42:57,920
we have our jobs we have to feed our

766
00:43:03,099 --> 00:43:00,200
kids we got to make sure that the rent

767
00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:03,109
is paid mortgage made car payments paid

768
00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:05,420
your electric bill is paid but you don't

769
00:43:10,930 --> 00:43:09,380
have a job right we got real issues here

770
00:43:13,450 --> 00:43:10,940
on the table and people are confused

771
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:13,460
about this and they're being told

772
00:43:18,609 --> 00:43:17,030
different stories and I've said it a

773
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:18,619
million times Bruce and I've said it

774
00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:20,780
with you I've said it with you we've

775
00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:21,980
talked about this before

776
00:43:31,290 --> 00:43:25,340
it's if you've ever wanted to wear a

777
00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:31,300
conspiracy hat now's the time today yes

778
00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:33,830
cause I mean they look I sense recently

779
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:35,840
you know Co spear seafarers who has

780
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:37,369
never had better company because now

781
00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:38,750
there's all kinds of scientists and

782
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:40,580
doctors and politicians they're all

783
00:43:44,290 --> 00:43:42,050
getting called conspiracy theorists

784
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:44,300
right because of the things to do the

785
00:43:48,109 --> 00:43:45,119
icon

786
00:43:49,489 --> 00:43:48,119
situation the virus situation all sorts

787
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:49,499
of people that weren't going along with

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00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:51,210
the government views you know been

789
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:53,130
called conspiracy theorists so it's no

790
00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:54,450
longer just the likes of us you know

791
00:43:58,039 --> 00:43:56,460
this there's PhD scientists they're

792
00:43:59,660 --> 00:43:58,049
getting driven off to YouTube because

793
00:44:01,130 --> 00:43:59,670
they're not agreeing and stuff like you

794
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:01,140
know it's been crazy and really crazy

795
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:04,619
yeah I've thought about that you know I

796
00:44:10,279 --> 00:44:06,930
don't want with with everything else

797
00:44:13,220 --> 00:44:10,289
look it's not only like with coronavirus

798
00:44:15,739 --> 00:44:13,230
right you can't say Colvin and a

799
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:15,749
different case their network okay you

800
00:44:20,499 --> 00:44:17,130
can't do it you can't do it you know

801
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:20,509
they have all of these BOTS and and and

802
00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:23,249
analytics that are running for video and

803
00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:25,950
audio and picking up on keywords and and

804
00:44:31,009 --> 00:44:28,940
there are things that you can not say or

805
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:31,019
you're gonna get censored you're gonna

806
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:32,490
get pulled out and you're gonna lose

807
00:44:39,759 --> 00:44:35,460
your channel and they've already been

808
00:44:42,769 --> 00:44:39,769
doing it on the subjects of UFOs or

809
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:42,779
conspiracy theories anything that goes

810
00:44:47,539 --> 00:44:45,720
against the grain your your channels

811
00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:47,549
going to get throttled your post is

812
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:49,619
gonna get throttled you're gonna be held

813
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:55,380
back and it's a it's a mild form of a

814
00:45:00,920 --> 00:44:58,170
censorship but you do see it and and

815
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:00,930
I've gone through it you know and right

816
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:03,900
now like I said do you really want proof

817
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:07,650
of the man controlling the narrative you

818
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:09,930
really want proof of that look what's

819
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:12,690
going on right now because you don't

820
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:15,410
know the truth you don't know the truth

821
00:45:21,229 --> 00:45:18,960
the truth you sim no network out there

822
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:21,239
is telling the same story as the network

823
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,450
next to them it's all different and

824
00:45:28,789 --> 00:45:26,160
things have changed you know one day you

825
00:45:30,259 --> 00:45:28,799
got advice from you know one team is

826
00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:30,269
supposed to be reliable the next day the

827
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:32,460
opposite advice is given to you you know

828
00:45:37,279 --> 00:45:35,579
I think in a way that's done some of

829
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:37,289
that obviously accidental some of its

830
00:45:39,710 --> 00:45:38,460
deliver I think you know because you

831
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:39,720
know you keep someone confused all the

832
00:45:44,839 --> 00:45:42,089
time that they mentally break they

833
00:45:46,759 --> 00:45:44,849
weaken because you're sure they're

834
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,769
trying to follow the best advice you

835
00:45:49,819 --> 00:45:48,839
know but then you're trying to bleed two

836
00:45:51,289 --> 00:45:49,829
things at once you know it's like a

837
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:51,299
Orwell situation where you got

838
00:45:54,049 --> 00:45:52,529
doublethink where you're trying to

839
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:54,059
you're trying to believe you shouldn't

840
00:45:57,259 --> 00:45:56,190
wear masks and you should wear masks you

841
00:45:59,300 --> 00:45:57,269
know the same time and they're trying to

842
00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:59,310
believe that you you should isolate

843
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,900
you should go out for walks you know so

844
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:02,400
it that was one of the things we've had

845
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:04,230
continually in the last few months is

846
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:07,080
this conflicting story where you've got

847
00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:08,940
absolute opposite things coming from

848
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:11,550
different experts right and I think

849
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:13,470
that's kind of mentally damaging in a

850
00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:14,910
way because people are really trying to

851
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,830
follow stuff right never trying to

852
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:18,000
figure I don't know if another news

853
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:20,010
channel is completely different yeah

854
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:21,570
yeah yeah yeah they're trying to figure

855
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,970
it out and then you go and do this you

856
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:25,680
know you're supposed to be at home

857
00:46:30,110 --> 00:46:28,140
you're supposed to be social distancing

858
00:46:32,570 --> 00:46:30,120
or the world's gonna come crashing down

859
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:32,580
to an end and we're all gonna die so

860
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:34,770
that scares the crap out everybody right

861
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:36,750
so so much so that we give up our jobs

862
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:40,470
and our freedoms but yet all of a sudden

863
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:42,570
it's okay to put tens of thousands of

864
00:46:48,830 --> 00:46:44,370
people in the street you know

865
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:48,840
elbow-to-elbow wait a minute here now I

866
00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:51,630
agree with the protest I'm saying it's

867
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:54,630
the message from the man just like today

868
00:47:01,700 --> 00:46:59,490
I literally posted up two headlines

869
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:01,710
today one was from Fox

870
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:04,020
one was from CNN I'm not gonna say who

871
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:08,220
is who but one headline says Russian

872
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,280
nuclear capable bombers intercept US

873
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:14,400
aircraft near Alaska second headline at

874
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:19,170
the same time says US intercepts Russian

875
00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:21,150
bombers and fighter jets off of the

876
00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:30,420
coast of Alaska and that's what's going

877
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,840
on you know I pay attention I jump from

878
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:35,760
news service to news service to news

879
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:37,830
service and news service I have to do

880
00:47:41,870 --> 00:47:40,140
that because I vet my stories and I

881
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:41,880
double check and double check and double

882
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:46,290
check and I will go back and and see 180

883
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:48,870
degree shift so what I mean it's like

884
00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:52,250
the opposite and I've nearly given up

885
00:47:57,020 --> 00:47:54,870
I've nearly given up I've nearly given

886
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,030
me we've had as well as well keep in

887
00:48:01,280 --> 00:47:59,520
mind that we came first through the

888
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:01,290
whole the brexit thing is you know that

889
00:48:06,980 --> 00:48:05,010
that's dragged on and on and on and with

890
00:48:08,570 --> 00:48:06,990
that being a major news story for mumps

891
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:08,580
and mumps here and then he went of

892
00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:10,290
course straight into the virus and then

893
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:12,030
it was the economy and now it's the

894
00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:12,690
protests

895
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:15,000
so I mean I think people be mentally

896
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:21,410
quite shattered yeah you guys are not

897
00:48:28,130 --> 00:48:26,400
immune to anything right now let's not

898
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:28,140
forget

899
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:31,380
I mean seriously when brexit was going

900
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:34,140
down let me tell you you can talk about

901
00:48:38,839 --> 00:48:36,450
the UK all you want in the headlines

902
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:38,849
okay and I'm sure it was pretty gnarly

903
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:41,670
they were equally as gnarly around the

904
00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:45,540
world the end is nigh if Britain

905
00:48:50,839 --> 00:48:48,420
separates from the European Union it's

906
00:48:53,540 --> 00:48:50,849
over the world economy's gonna collapse

907
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:53,550
and everything's gonna fall down inside

908
00:48:58,220 --> 00:48:56,490
of Europe nothing's gonna be left the

909
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:58,230
world's gonna be left in tatters it's

910
00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:02,400
gonna be a smoke-filled Armageddon deal

911
00:49:07,540 --> 00:49:04,700
right right what happened to that

912
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:07,550
[Laughter]

913
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:09,750
stories they just kind of melt away

914
00:49:13,339 --> 00:49:11,730
which is the crazy thing because you

915
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:13,349
know that the virus stories now

916
00:49:17,450 --> 00:49:15,000
obviously of falling out the headlines

917
00:49:19,309 --> 00:49:17,460
really fast whereas it was constant now

918
00:49:21,319 --> 00:49:19,319
switched across to the protests you know

919
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,329
again it's really baffling because even

920
00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:24,000
like the major these major stories and

921
00:49:26,329 --> 00:49:25,319
they just seem to just evaporate when

922
00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:26,339
the next one comes along

923
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:27,750
you know any day doesn't really make

924
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:30,300
sense because you made their that big an

925
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:32,040
issue right they're still there then you

926
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:33,300
know cuz we're still in the brexit

927
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,680
process you know we're still supposed to

928
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:36,720
have the virus you know we still have so

929
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:38,430
it's weird the way it just kind of fades

930
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:41,220
away and suddenly we were able to pay

931
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:42,990
out the equivalent of like a bricks that

932
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:45,060
pull out every week you know because of

933
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:47,099
the economic situation whereas before

934
00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:48,660
we're saying how are we gonna survive

935
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,790
brexit and now we're like losing more

936
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:52,800
money a week than we were gonna lose

937
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:55,079
from brakes you know it's kind of crazy

938
00:50:01,069 --> 00:49:56,220
I mean it really is crazy

939
00:50:03,950 --> 00:50:01,079
now economically brexit was already a

940
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:03,960
big question mark and I've got a lot of

941
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,680
friends over in the UK and whether

942
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,079
brexit was a big conversation between a

943
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:12,720
friend of mine name's mark and he you

944
00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:14,910
know it's a big big company outside of

945
00:50:20,859 --> 00:50:18,359
London and and I was with him back in

946
00:50:23,029 --> 00:50:20,869
January and I was like so dude

947
00:50:26,989 --> 00:50:23,039
you know what's what's happening what's

948
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:26,999
going on what's gonna be you know and he

949
00:50:32,299 --> 00:50:29,609
was struggling and he was worried and he

950
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:32,309
was worried about trade and and exports

951
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,440
and imports and duties and things and

952
00:50:40,009 --> 00:50:37,680
all of his customers that are all across

953
00:50:42,759 --> 00:50:40,019
Europe all the way into Russia right

954
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:42,769
this is like a big deal and then

955
00:50:51,319 --> 00:50:48,390
coronavirus how how is the economy I

956
00:50:55,279 --> 00:50:51,329
mean how was it going into coronavirus

957
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:55,289
route were things okay or we were okay I

958
00:51:00,739 --> 00:50:57,420
think people kind of surprised that it

959
00:51:02,299 --> 00:51:00,749
hadn't gone as badly as you know worst

960
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:02,309
predictions I guess with the models

961
00:51:06,109 --> 00:51:04,049
again you know these models we could get

962
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:06,119
but it hadn't got as bad as they

963
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:08,819
suspected but now yeah now we're looking

964
00:51:12,259 --> 00:51:11,609
at having the worst economic impact from

965
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,269
the lockdown

966
00:51:15,709 --> 00:51:14,640
it's the in any other country as far as

967
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:15,719
I know at the moment we're like number

968
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:19,170
one in the world how deep i recession is

969
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:21,569
expected to be worse than the u.s. worse

970
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:26,249
than spain so so that's been a disaster

971
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:28,890
you know real disaster beyond bricks it

972
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:30,960
really I mean I think we'll we're

973
00:51:33,410 --> 00:51:31,890
probably looking back and thinking

974
00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:33,420
bricks it didn't sound so bad now

975
00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:36,269
because really yeah this is this has

976
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:37,559
been the problem I'd like to say that

977
00:51:40,249 --> 00:51:38,910
those companies are worrying about what

978
00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:40,259
they're gonna do with bricks and now

979
00:51:43,819 --> 00:51:42,180
they've got bricks it plus write the

980
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:43,829
code buses or so a lot of those

981
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:45,690
companies are I think game over if you

982
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:47,369
were trading in Europe you've had to

983
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:48,690
lock down all this time and you know

984
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,249
that you've got to deal with the brexit

985
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:52,319
problems you more later fold you know

986
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:53,880
and go for a new business because it's

987
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:56,460
so well you know if you joined in Europe

988
00:51:59,450 --> 00:51:58,140
I don't see how you know you can cope up

989
00:52:02,959 --> 00:51:59,460
to all this and then you've got that

990
00:52:05,329 --> 00:52:02,969
coming right so I think they lose a lot

991
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:05,339
they set up to 40% of small businesses

992
00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:08,190
may fold I mean that's kind of crazy

993
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:09,900
same thing here that's that what you

994
00:52:18,019 --> 00:52:12,329
know what it's the same thing in every

995
00:52:22,029 --> 00:52:18,029
country no but nobody has got some kind

996
00:52:25,249 --> 00:52:22,039
of Superman guard up you know that is

997
00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:25,259
gonna make them safe it doesn't work

998
00:52:30,620 --> 00:52:27,630
that way and when you think about the

999
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:30,630
exports that come out of not only China

1000
00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:32,910
but South Korea and say

1001
00:52:39,470 --> 00:52:36,900
I'm sung and and and all of the people

1002
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:39,480
have to have money yes you buy those

1003
00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:42,570
things so you can manufacture so you can

1004
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:47,960
export it's just not that kind of party

1005
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:50,130
they're gonna be you know cutting back

1006
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:51,960
on everything and prices will probably

1007
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:54,780
go up you know we're going to see import

1008
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:56,850
costs going up countries of world war ii

1009
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:58,500
export food you know they're gonna have

1010
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:02,160
lots of knock-on effects now so maybe

1011
00:53:09,410 --> 00:53:04,530
like in six months who knows yeah and

1012
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:09,420
you know what there was a thing he may

1013
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:11,730
not be old enough I'm old I'm an old guy

1014
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:14,490
but there was a thing for a long time

1015
00:53:19,550 --> 00:53:16,200
here in the United States made in the

1016
00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:19,560
USA made in the USA tags had to say

1017
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:21,600
everything had a you know and slowly

1018
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:23,640
everything started to go over to China

1019
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:26,310
but we had this pride here made in the

1020
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:31,500
USA and I'm here to tell you if if the

1021
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:37,050
memory stays about coronavirus the the

1022
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:41,190
pollination of the idea I'm just sayin

1023
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:45,300
of the idea that this was caused by

1024
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,130
China either directly or through

1025
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:50,400
negligence right no matter what you only

1026
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:52,470
have to just put the germ of the idea

1027
00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:56,130
out there that's it right so if that

1028
00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:00,780
stays do you think that people in the

1029
00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:03,270
United States are going to want to buy

1030
00:54:09,020 --> 00:54:06,600
products from China do you think it's a

1031
00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:09,030
cool thing to do to order products from

1032
00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:12,150
China to to have manufacturing done in

1033
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:14,760
China do you think people are gonna feel

1034
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:18,420
good about it or their customers right

1035
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:22,260
wait a minute you make this stuff in

1036
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:26,130
China well yeah you know I'm telling you

1037
00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:28,530
you know and I don't want to be one of

1038
00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:31,230
those guys that causes issues and causes

1039
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:33,390
problems I'm just stating the obvious

1040
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:36,900
bad stating the obvious when you think

1041
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:38,730
about it all those you know you've got

1042
00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:40,260
that point where you know the American

1043
00:54:43,790 --> 00:54:41,940
flags were made in China I mean he's

1044
00:54:45,390 --> 00:54:43,800
only waving you know an American flag

1045
00:54:47,850 --> 00:54:45,400
they ordered from China I mean it

1046
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:47,860
yeah I don't see that that's gonna be

1047
00:54:52,020 --> 00:54:49,930
got to that point right right right

1048
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:52,030
right you know yeah

1049
00:54:57,150 --> 00:54:54,940
yes trunk you to make his maggots for

1050
00:54:59,820 --> 00:54:57,160
the election coming up are those gonna

1051
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,830
be made in China Yeah right yeah this is

1052
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:00,880
this is that people that start

1053
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,800
questioning I think it's good because

1054
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:04,480
also I'd like to see people questioning

1055
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:06,610
where all of our stuff comes from right

1056
00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:08,530
because there's another social problem I

1057
00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:10,660
mean look I know that I've probably got

1058
00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:12,190
stuff in my house right it's made by

1059
00:55:16,890 --> 00:55:14,980
putting some child slave in a factory in

1060
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,900
China or in Africa and I've been like

1061
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:18,640
that idea of where are we buying if that

1062
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,890
becomes more of an issue maybe we will

1063
00:55:25,410 --> 00:55:22,480
look a bit deeper and start saying you

1064
00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:25,420
know are we at eclis morally sourcing

1065
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:27,700
things you know from where we should be

1066
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:30,670
and where we shouldn't be so that's not

1067
00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:33,340
a bad conversation to start you know I

1068
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:34,540
mean I think that's something we do I

1069
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:36,220
know I watch the show the other day and

1070
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:38,890
these kids were they were basic slaves

1071
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:41,350
on the ivory coast of Africa picking

1072
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,270
cocoa and then they said that about two

1073
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:45,760
fifths of the world cocoa is coming from

1074
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:47,890
there and this kid was saying when you

1075
00:55:51,420 --> 00:55:49,540
eat your chocolate you eating my flesh

1076
00:55:53,730 --> 00:55:51,430
just remember that you know you're

1077
00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:53,740
thinking what you know what what is

1078
00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:55,660
wrong here you know that this is the

1079
00:55:59,850 --> 00:55:57,190
situation where so much of our products

1080
00:56:02,010 --> 00:55:59,860
is coming from even people on almost no

1081
00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:02,020
money or slavery or you know regimes

1082
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that you wouldn't to live in right you

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00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:06,910
know so yeah I think we have to have

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00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:08,470
that conversation you know all this

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00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:09,730
stuff's going on we need to start

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00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:11,410
thinking well what is the ethical

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00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:12,940
sourcing of the things that we have in

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00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:15,250
our homes yeah it'll be back to made in

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00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:17,830
Japan that's what you want to see that's

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00:56:21,780 --> 00:56:20,140
the label you want to see I used to make

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00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:21,790
these I used to make these jokes and

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when we come back after the break

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00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:25,780
everybody don't worry we'll be

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00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:29,650
discussing hybrid humans I love talking

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00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:31,180
to Bruce and just having an open

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00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:33,550
conversation but I used to make jokes I

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00:56:39,450 --> 00:56:36,940
used to make jokes hey Stu go oh man you

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need you need those little tiny fingers

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00:56:43,620 --> 00:56:41,620
to pull the coffee beans off you know

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00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:43,630
you need those little tiny fingers as

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00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:47,020
little tear talented fingers to to pull

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00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:48,910
the cocoa beans you need those little

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00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:53,320
tiny fingers in China to make these

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00:56:57,570 --> 00:56:55,660
telephones you know you need that they

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00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:57,580
make you know I used to make jokes about

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00:57:01,720 --> 00:56:58,400
it

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00:57:06,580 --> 00:57:01,730
you know whatever funny haha and to be

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00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,590
honest it's it's one thing when life is

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00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:08,960
good you know life is good life is good

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00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,150
the planet is good at hi everything's

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00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:13,760
funny you know and and comedy whatever

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:17,600
right but when we really stop and look

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00:57:24,130 --> 00:57:21,530
at the reality of the situation where I

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00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:24,140
think that not only do we need to be

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00:57:31,630 --> 00:57:28,180
more sensitive and and and we should but

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00:57:35,290 --> 00:57:31,640
coronavirus enable us to slow down and

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:35,300
see the pollution stop see the skies are

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00:57:42,490 --> 00:57:39,290
clear right that it it can be

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00:57:44,350 --> 00:57:42,500
manipulated we can't control that we

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00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:44,360
can't spend more time with our families

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00:57:49,090 --> 00:57:47,150
we can stay home and cook we don't need

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00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:49,100
to necessarily work as hard as we've

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00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:50,870
been working that we can stop and think

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00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:52,910
about other things we can go back to

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00:57:56,350 --> 00:57:54,260
work but let's come up with another

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00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:56,360
economic model that works for everybody

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00:58:01,690 --> 00:57:58,850
you know there's a lot of different wars

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00:58:05,470 --> 00:58:01,700
do we really need Wars nobody's at war

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:05,480
right now right do we really need this

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00:58:09,340 --> 00:58:07,010
stuff do we really need to kill each

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00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:09,350
other do we really need crime do we need

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00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:12,010
this stuff everybody do we right it

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00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:16,370
enabled us to stop and just slow down

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00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:19,580
just slow down for a second this is an

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:22,760
opportunity that we didn't want to have

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00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:25,010
we didn't want to have to go through

1137
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:26,870
this but it's the cards that we were

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:31,490
dealt and and it is forcing us to take a

1139
00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:34,130
hard look at our actions from the past

1140
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:37,430
and an opportunity right now on a better

1141
00:58:42,370 --> 00:58:40,090
way forward and that's a good thing

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:42,380
absolutely so he's you know he's

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00:58:45,610 --> 00:58:43,730
obviously with any of these things that

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00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,620
happen you know it's a mix of the good

1145
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:46,880
and the bad and then you have to come

1146
00:58:52,570 --> 00:58:50,720
and also the the mix of the what we want

1147
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:52,580
as a species and what the nor pointone

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00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:54,530
percent you know want us to do and like

1149
00:58:58,060 --> 00:58:56,090
we all talk about middle way you know

1150
00:59:00,310 --> 00:58:58,070
where we get through that and towards a

1151
00:59:01,270 --> 00:59:00,320
better you know a better position

1152
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:01,280
because of course there's always being

1153
00:59:05,470 --> 00:59:02,690
negative influences there's always going

1154
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:05,480
to be you know the conspiracy side of it

1155
00:59:09,130 --> 00:59:06,470
right there's always going to be that

1156
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:09,140
but if we're clever we can use these

1157
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:11,250
kind of setbacks to become

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00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,710
steps instead of setbacks you don't step

1159
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:15,900
up to another level this is just being

1160
00:59:20,780 --> 00:59:19,170
aware of what can go wrong you know how

1161
00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:20,790
you could be co-opted you know where

1162
00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:22,380
those influences are and as long as you

1163
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,670
navigate carefully you know when these

1164
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:25,440
problems here you know there can be

1165
00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:27,990
opportunities for change for the better

1166
00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:30,420
and I think that's where we now have to

1167
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:32,220
formulate what is the change for the

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00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:35,010
better and without turning into us going

1169
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:37,290
you know tricked by the man kind of

1170
00:59:39,830 --> 00:59:38,370
thing but you know long as we're careful

1171
00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:39,840
we can use these opportunities to

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:42,390
actually get somewhere and I'm hopeful

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00:59:46,820 --> 00:59:44,730
that we will you know I think overall I

1174
00:59:50,690 --> 00:59:46,830
think that you know that we'll probably

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00:59:52,490 --> 00:59:50,700
use the opportunity in the best way yes

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00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:52,500
let's take our break right here live

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00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:53,700
from the United Kingdom

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Bruce our fenton is with us when we come

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01:00:02,840 --> 00:59:59,610
back we will discuss his new book which

1180
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:02,850
is out XO Genesis human hybrids a

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01:00:08,030 --> 01:00:05,640
scientific history of extraterrestrial

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01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:08,040
genetic manipulation co-authored with

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01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:11,010
his wife in Daniella we'll be right back

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01:00:36,349 --> 01:00:13,760
after this short break stay with us

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this is fade to black

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welcome back fade to black I am your

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host Jimmy Church our guest tonight

1293
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Bruce our Fenton live from the United

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Kingdom we are discussing his new book

1295
01:05:42,890 --> 01:05:40,440
it is called XO Genesis human hybrids a

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scientific history of extraterrestrial

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genetic manipulation and I've read the

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book it's an excellent book it's an

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excellent read the links for it are over

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at a Jimmy Church radio.com

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and I am actually Bruce I am going to

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start right here

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Darwin we're gonna start let's start

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01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:11,550
let's start there yeah and I I hear

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01:06:19,660 --> 01:06:15,900
something in the background it's loud

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01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:19,670
it's it sounds like an air conditioner

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okay and this is live radio everybody I

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apologize I apologize okay Bruce I only

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say that for the audience okay so now

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let's start with Darwin yeah and that

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was darling

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okay are we settled in so yeah okay oh

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we're good we're good

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was Darwin wrong well right and wrong

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especially he's right in the respect

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01:07:02,390 --> 01:06:58,920
that we do see random mutations we see

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natural selection we see those core

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things you know in the evolutionary

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story and of course that evolution

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happens which has pretty the main

1321
01:07:12,410 --> 01:07:10,800
takeaway from Darwin's theory that you

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01:07:16,580 --> 01:07:12,420
know over time we do get new species

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01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:16,590
appearing that life is not constant in

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01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:19,610
that respect okay but then conversely

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and he made this a time you know he

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didn't he didn't have all the

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01:07:26,570 --> 01:07:24,480
information you know so he understood

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:26,580
that that his theory wasn't gonna be the

1329
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:28,410
final say right because we need to know

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01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:31,110
DNA evidence he didn't have all of that

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technology back then so he was aware

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that he didn't have the whole story

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obviously now we know that there's more

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to it than just random selection there's

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things like feedback loops in the

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environment where we have

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your DNA being reprogrammed within a

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lifetime no through epigenetics Chelsea

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01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:50,490
that's new we also realized that DNA can

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do some really clever things almost kind

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of rewriting itself to a degree there's

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things that he just he wouldn't have

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understood I mean we have viruses that

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can virus topic but we have viruses that

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01:08:04,310 --> 01:08:02,280
can infect an organism and those viruses

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01:08:06,410 --> 01:08:04,320
can bring new information in which can

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actually cause leaps and stuff in

1348
01:08:12,350 --> 01:08:08,640
evolution okay so to me think about it

1349
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,360
yeah the core stuff yes but some of the

1350
01:08:16,250 --> 01:08:14,400
other the other aspects he just he

1351
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:16,260
didn't know about so I'm I think we can

1352
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:18,570
give him give him like a b-minus or

1353
01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:20,010
something am i right good pretty good

1354
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:23,100
but there's this needs to rewrite parts

1355
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:24,630
of that model and some people don't want

1356
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:26,850
to know the hard core Darwinists they

1357
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:28,440
don't really like to have any criticism

1358
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:33,510
of him at all yeah and there is for me

1359
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:36,570
and I'm not a PhD right I'm not an

1360
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:38,850
anthropologist I'm not a biologist I

1361
01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:44,250
don't I don't yeah I don't but I do have

1362
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:48,630
eyeballs and I am able to study and

1363
01:08:54,890 --> 01:08:51,450
research a few things and I just step

1364
01:08:56,570 --> 01:08:54,900
back and before I get to us right Homo

1365
01:08:58,660 --> 01:08:56,580
sapiens sapiens which is the

1366
01:09:02,420 --> 01:08:58,670
conversation we're gonna have tonight I

1367
01:09:07,660 --> 01:09:02,430
will look at some of the obvious things

1368
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:10,420
why aren't they driving cars today

1369
01:09:20,090 --> 01:09:16,020
monkeys chimpanzees apes why has that

1370
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:20,100
evolution stopped and I can go I can go

1371
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:22,770
on and on and on before we go whoa what

1372
01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:24,150
about Darwin's Finch

1373
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:26,760
you know the beak changed a little bit

1374
01:09:33,020 --> 01:09:29,610
you know that's that's not enough for me

1375
01:09:36,050 --> 01:09:33,030
I I don't see the evolutionary changes

1376
01:09:39,830 --> 01:09:36,060
that should have gone on dramatically

1377
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:39,840
over tens of millions of years of

1378
01:09:44,510 --> 01:09:42,210
species that are exactly the same today

1379
01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:44,520
as they were ten 20 million years ago

1380
01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:49,560
and I don't see those changes and then I

1381
01:09:57,740 --> 01:09:53,580
look at the human race homo sapien

1382
01:09:59,690 --> 01:09:57,750
sapien and we have issues with the

1383
01:10:02,810 --> 01:09:59,700
fossil record we have issues with the

1384
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:02,820
fossil record across all species right

1385
01:10:11,420 --> 01:10:07,230
yeah but when we look at us and our DNA

1386
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:11,430
sequencing it appears that some pretty

1387
01:10:16,610 --> 01:10:14,130
miraculous things were altered in our

1388
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:16,620
DNA that couldn't have happened

1389
01:10:22,340 --> 01:10:20,490
naturally number one number two it

1390
01:10:24,170 --> 01:10:22,350
appears and I know that you go back

1391
01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:24,180
800,000 years and we're gonna talk about

1392
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:28,980
that but it appears that 200,000 years

1393
01:10:37,340 --> 01:10:34,290
ago we just appeared here we absolutely

1394
01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:37,350
just appeared what happened before that

1395
01:10:42,140 --> 01:10:38,700
we're going to be discussing that

1396
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:42,150
tonight sure but that's a difficult

1397
01:10:50,690 --> 01:10:48,060
thing for anthropologists to discuss you

1398
01:10:52,820 --> 01:10:50,700
know they want to say well we know that

1399
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:52,830
it can happen and we know how it does

1400
01:10:59,050 --> 01:10:55,730
happen we don't have the proof of it yet

1401
01:11:02,210 --> 01:10:59,060
we don't know and can't explain

1402
01:11:03,740 --> 01:11:02,220
different chromosomes and in DNA and how

1403
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:03,750
those alterations have but we don't know

1404
01:11:08,210 --> 01:11:06,060
about it we don't know why we're 46 and

1405
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:08,220
primates are 48 right you know I said so

1406
01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:12,000
you know they them but it it's it

1407
01:11:17,210 --> 01:11:15,060
happened and it's nothing freaky that

1408
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:17,220
that's kind of their answer they don't

1409
01:11:22,580 --> 01:11:20,250
want to go outside of the box do they no

1410
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:22,590
they don't and you know even with very

1411
01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:24,090
glaring problem soon as you touched on

1412
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:26,040
one that that we have some creatures

1413
01:11:30,860 --> 01:11:28,980
like the crocodile or the kohler camp

1414
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,870
when the cola camp was gonna be for this

1415
01:11:34,910 --> 01:11:33,120
fish was extinct for millions of years

1416
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:34,920
or whatever turns out you know it was

1417
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:36,840
still no news it still alive but it

1418
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,610
hadn't changed in like millions of years

1419
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:39,840
and it's like a little a living fossil

1420
01:11:43,790 --> 01:11:41,970
see crocodiles they've been around for

1421
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:43,800
millions years well they barely changed

1422
01:11:47,770 --> 01:11:45,570
you know we find these giant sized

1423
01:11:49,820 --> 01:11:47,780
crocodile fossils but basically the same

1424
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:49,830
and then there's other creatures that

1425
01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:51,930
seem to have evolved you know really

1426
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:53,670
fast you know obviously there's there's

1427
01:11:56,990 --> 01:11:55,320
a lot of strangeness there they died if

1428
01:11:59,820 --> 01:11:57,000
this constant evolution why is it there

1429
01:12:01,860 --> 01:11:59,830
some species is literally stuck

1430
01:12:03,870 --> 01:12:01,870
first gear in neutral thing right there

1431
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:03,880
and then others that suppose they've

1432
01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:06,280
gone rapidly evolving and then on top of

1433
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:07,180
that though if you think about when the

1434
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:09,670
recoloring issues is that if you have

1435
01:12:14,370 --> 01:12:12,490
gradual steps forward you know slow

1436
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:14,380
mutations I think it's something like

1437
01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:16,810
the wing of a bird right how are useful

1438
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:18,580
is it just to have two stubs sticking

1439
01:12:22,530 --> 01:12:21,190
out the side of you right and there's a

1440
01:12:24,690 --> 01:12:22,540
there's a point where they become useful

1441
01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:24,700
right but in the meanwhile what you'd

1442
01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:26,230
have instead is two lumps of flesh that

1443
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:28,360
other animals can grab you by and which

1444
01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:29,920
are causing you to burn off extra energy

1445
01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:31,960
that they do no good for you right

1446
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:34,240
they're actually a hazard total hazard

1447
01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:34,930
you're running around with these

1448
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:37,180
half-formed wings right you're going to

1449
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:40,750
do any good now if if we are having you

1450
01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:42,640
know beneficial changes and that's

1451
01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:44,260
suppose what drives evolution is you

1452
01:12:48,570 --> 01:12:45,940
have a mutation if it's beneficial it

1453
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:48,580
stays if it's not it is lost again

1454
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:49,990
because those creatures get killed off

1455
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:51,250
but you know we have things like the

1456
01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:52,930
wing which don't make me sense in that

1457
01:12:55,470 --> 01:12:54,100
context they should have just

1458
01:12:57,330 --> 01:12:55,480
disappeared again because before you get

1459
01:12:59,610 --> 01:12:57,340
to a full wing they're useless

1460
01:13:01,860 --> 01:12:59,620
yeah you can't fly the useless same as

1461
01:13:03,450 --> 01:13:01,870
that I like what is the in-between

1462
01:13:05,610 --> 01:13:03,460
between me out to see and not me out to

1463
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:05,620
see right that's a big jump isn't it

1464
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:07,270
you're a whole other sense that appears

1465
01:13:10,050 --> 01:13:08,110
out of nowhere

1466
01:13:12,270 --> 01:13:10,060
I was the in-between of an eye is it

1467
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,280
just a hole in your face right I mean

1468
01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:14,560
there has to be you know there's some

1469
01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:16,240
something else going on here right

1470
01:13:20,130 --> 01:13:17,740
because some of these characteristics of

1471
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:20,140
animals you can see that they wouldn't

1472
01:13:23,970 --> 01:13:22,090
appear gradually they were either there

1473
01:13:25,530 --> 01:13:23,980
or they weren't right because they only

1474
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:25,540
become useful once they're fully formed

1475
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:29,770
so that's not really easy for mainstream

1476
01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:31,210
scientists to tackle because you know

1477
01:13:35,850 --> 01:13:32,470
they don't have an easy answer for how

1478
01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:35,860
you can explain sudden leaps well in the

1479
01:13:41,850 --> 01:13:39,790
the other parts and and I look at it two

1480
01:13:44,970 --> 01:13:41,860
different ways the other part that's

1481
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:44,980
very difficult to explain is after every

1482
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:48,250
mass extinction event and we've had five

1483
01:13:53,220 --> 01:13:51,970
or six confirmed where virtually you

1484
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:53,230
know what we're talking about ninety

1485
01:13:58,380 --> 01:13:55,900
percent eighty five ninety percent of

1486
01:14:03,470 --> 01:13:58,390
everything on the planet is gone but

1487
01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:03,480
then in very short order new species and

1488
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:07,300
species our are created you know tens of

1489
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:11,850
thousands and there isn't any time

1490
01:14:18,370 --> 01:14:15,510
or the Darwin version of evolution to

1491
01:14:23,210 --> 01:14:18,380
have taken place right that these these

1492
01:14:25,850 --> 01:14:23,220
species just miraculously appear in mass

1493
01:14:27,710 --> 01:14:25,860
and it's happening over and over and

1494
01:14:31,730 --> 01:14:27,720
over again so that's one way to look at

1495
01:14:33,230 --> 01:14:31,740
it the second way to look at it and they

1496
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:33,240
kind of go hand in hand

1497
01:14:41,630 --> 01:14:37,440
is that here on earth you can't stop

1498
01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:41,640
life you can't stop it life for some

1499
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:44,340
reason right you have a forest fire you

1500
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:46,890
know a field burns down it's nothing but

1501
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:49,490
carbon right nothing but carbon

1502
01:14:57,740 --> 01:14:53,250
everything's burnt and six months later

1503
01:14:59,900 --> 01:14:57,750
it's it's growing life is there and not

1504
01:15:02,060 --> 01:14:59,910
only with with the plants but it's the

1505
01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:02,070
return of the animal you know everything

1506
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:06,030
just wants to grow and thrive here on

1507
01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:09,690
this planet and so do the two of them go

1508
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:10,710
hand-in-hand

1509
01:15:14,090 --> 01:15:12,510
you know it's very difficult to stop

1510
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:14,100
life here mm-hmm

1511
01:15:18,410 --> 01:15:16,050
the cycles of destruction and rebirth

1512
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:18,420
for continued on its I mean everything

1513
01:15:23,150 --> 01:15:19,920
we see particularly that there were the

1514
01:15:24,650 --> 01:15:23,160
the massive issues in the stories well

1515
01:15:27,140 --> 01:15:24,660
of course is this sudden appearance of

1516
01:15:28,910 --> 01:15:27,150
vast numbers of life-forms during the

1517
01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:28,920
Cambrian explosion when you just have

1518
01:15:33,470 --> 01:15:31,500
this amazing one and yet explosion will

1519
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:33,480
explosion of new life-forms and that

1520
01:15:37,610 --> 01:15:35,130
that's another one that has been a

1521
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:37,620
struggle for mainstream scientists to

1522
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:40,650
explain because there's no signs of

1523
01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:42,510
their precursors you know they're just

1524
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,670
like you said these are just appear out

1525
01:15:49,010 --> 01:15:46,640
of nowhere almost in the fossil record

1526
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:49,020
some of those species had let you know

1527
01:15:53,090 --> 01:15:51,330
other species you know in the past that

1528
01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:53,100
could even be considered there because

1529
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,630
they've just unique completely unique

1530
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:56,880
lineages appeared out of nowhere so

1531
01:16:01,550 --> 01:15:58,530
that's been another problem you know so

1532
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:01,560
there's clearly some really huge holes

1533
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:04,110
I'm a guy like this when you look at

1534
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:06,330
things like you've seen that wasp that

1535
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,420
lays its egg on a tarantula seen that

1536
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:11,280
but as you think about stuff like that

1537
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:12,930
if we're thinking of this logical

1538
01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:15,570
process where you know the the the one

1539
01:16:18,980 --> 01:16:17,400
with the best idea or the best

1540
01:16:20,690 --> 01:16:18,990
development wins I mean how can it be

1541
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:20,700
the best idea that you need to lay your

1542
01:16:24,380 --> 01:16:22,530
egg on a deadly tarantula I mean that's

1543
01:16:25,370 --> 01:16:24,390
you know you start thinking about where

1544
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:25,380
does that come about

1545
01:16:29,209 --> 01:16:27,270
all the places to lay it you try and lay

1546
01:16:31,790 --> 01:16:29,219
on a a trafficking that can eat you

1547
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:31,800
right and you love stuff like that you

1548
01:16:34,850 --> 01:16:32,760
just thing is that sounds like something

1549
01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:34,860
a joke with you right that to say look

1550
01:16:39,580 --> 01:16:36,540
we're up a few red herrings in here get

1551
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:39,590
them to think to question this story

1552
01:16:44,180 --> 01:16:42,210
because it doesn't make any sense and

1553
01:16:44,930 --> 01:16:44,190
you've got caterpillar that looks like a

1554
01:16:47,780 --> 01:16:44,940
crocodile

1555
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:47,790
know things I just feel like why would

1556
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:49,650
that why would that evolved cuz he can't

1557
01:16:53,629 --> 01:16:51,570
pass for a crocodile right it's only a

1558
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:53,639
caterpillar I mean there's stuff like

1559
01:16:57,020 --> 01:16:55,020
that you know so thing you know it's

1560
01:16:59,330 --> 01:16:57,030
almost like I know someone toying with

1561
01:17:01,220 --> 01:16:59,340
you you know sends them well why why

1562
01:17:05,959 --> 01:17:01,230
would that be a natural you know leap

1563
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:05,969
and what's the benefit there yes there

1564
01:17:14,810 --> 01:17:10,530
is there is 65 million years ago if that

1565
01:17:19,570 --> 01:17:14,820
asteroid doesn't hit earth are we left

1566
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:19,580
to think that the dinosaurs would be

1567
01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:22,770
going through an evolutionary process

1568
01:17:29,419 --> 01:17:26,070
and today they would be building radio

1569
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:29,429
telescopes well there are people do ya

1570
01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:31,770
wonder that if they even did get to a

1571
01:17:36,740 --> 01:17:33,540
point where they were at least you know

1572
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:36,750
some kind of civilization you know

1573
01:17:40,189 --> 01:17:38,130
that's not impossible it sounds crazy

1574
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,199
but it's not impossible because if they

1575
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:42,000
didn't get to an agreement one said they

1576
01:17:47,959 --> 01:17:43,380
basically went extinct they didn't have

1577
01:17:49,490 --> 01:17:47,969
a space program know about this yes yes

1578
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,500
I'm not playing her out or playing

1579
01:17:53,689 --> 01:17:52,080
around about this no and the things they

1580
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:53,699
could have got to a certain point in

1581
01:17:58,700 --> 01:17:56,400
terms of a basic civilization you know

1582
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,710
they may have been humanoid dinosaurs to

1583
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:00,000
had a citizen know that this was in a

1584
01:18:03,709 --> 01:18:02,010
recent study and they said you know we

1585
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:03,719
have to tack that and they actually

1586
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:05,760
realized that you probably couldn't it's

1587
01:18:10,129 --> 01:18:08,460
so long ago that is possible the

1588
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:10,139
dinosaurs need to have a kind of

1589
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,370
evenutally things we don't find the

1590
01:18:14,810 --> 01:18:12,960
fossils of every species right you know

1591
01:18:16,669 --> 01:18:14,820
you have to be quite lucky to find a

1592
01:18:18,610 --> 01:18:16,679
fossil you know because it takes a lot

1593
01:18:19,790 --> 01:18:18,620
of perfect conditions for it and

1594
01:18:21,979 --> 01:18:19,800
fossilized

1595
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,989
so you can miss a whole species so let's

1596
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:23,760
say there was a humanoid dinosaur race

1597
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:27,330
and it had a basic civilization you know

1598
01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:30,330
if it was to say how we were 5000 years

1599
01:18:34,430 --> 01:18:33,270
ago or something right you know if they

1600
01:18:35,629 --> 01:18:34,440
were hit by a meteorite there's nothing

1601
01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:35,639
to do about it and we wouldn't find

1602
01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:37,320
anything of that that's definitely came

1603
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:38,790
to inclusion I was so long ago

1604
01:18:41,630 --> 01:18:39,840
you wouldn't find a trace of a

1605
01:18:43,010 --> 01:18:41,640
civilization like that it's only once

1606
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:43,020
you get to the level like we are where

1607
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:45,360
you can modify the geology you know you

1608
01:18:49,460 --> 01:18:47,400
do open minds and things that you could

1609
01:18:51,230 --> 01:18:49,470
find right if you don't get to a

1610
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,240
technological level you can have a

1611
01:18:55,190 --> 01:18:53,280
civilization of you know erect reptile

1612
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:55,200
like humanoids that existed millions

1613
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:56,490
years ago know wide and that's kind of

1614
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:57,570
crazy and then they realize that you

1615
01:19:01,310 --> 01:18:59,280
know that is theoretically possible I

1616
01:19:03,020 --> 01:19:01,320
mean as much as that might sound like

1617
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:03,030
weird to a lot of people then they do

1618
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:04,490
think that that is in theory possible

1619
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:07,980
now when we look at you know I brought

1620
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:10,290
up the two hundred thousand year number

1621
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:12,210
for homo sapiens sapiens only because

1622
01:19:18,710 --> 01:19:16,080
that's that's part of our educational

1623
01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:18,720
system you know this is where things are

1624
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:21,630
are established and try to figure out if

1625
01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:23,310
there's a crossover the co magma in the

1626
01:19:31,130 --> 01:19:28,110
undertone whatever and yes yeah and it

1627
01:19:34,460 --> 01:19:31,140
should be there but nonetheless your

1628
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:34,470
research goes back much much much

1629
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:38,730
farther than that which is controversial

1630
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:42,270
in of itself so the eight hundred

1631
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:47,520
thousand year number when today human

1632
01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:50,960
hybrids and human hybrid program is

1633
01:19:56,450 --> 01:19:54,510
widely discussed we talked about it on

1634
01:19:57,820 --> 01:19:56,460
Monday night with an eighteen late let's

1635
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:57,830
have that many guests on the show

1636
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:01,440
discussing this your number is eight

1637
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:04,170
hundred thousand years so let's kind of

1638
01:20:10,190 --> 01:20:07,920
start there can we sure yeah I'll just

1639
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:10,200
very quickly just what you said that's

1640
01:20:13,970 --> 01:20:11,610
just very quickly just a caveat that

1641
01:20:17,210 --> 01:20:13,980
yeah when we talk about the period from

1642
01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:17,220
two hundred thousand almost that's more

1643
01:20:20,810 --> 01:20:18,780
science of focusing on what we think of

1644
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:20,820
as modern like you said homo second soft

1645
01:20:25,580 --> 01:20:23,520
is northern humans but homo sapiens goes

1646
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,590
back way earlier and that that's really

1647
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:27,360
where I'm coming in at the idea that

1648
01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:31,440
what we call Homo sapiens has a lineage

1649
01:20:36,230 --> 01:20:34,710
that goes back to around about a hundred

1650
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:36,240
thousand years ago I say seven eighty

1651
01:20:40,730 --> 01:20:38,880
I'm so fairly stickler on that but

1652
01:20:42,890 --> 01:20:40,740
essentially yeah you can trace it back

1653
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:42,900
look this is not just just me I mean

1654
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:44,850
what's happened in the last few years is

1655
01:20:49,250 --> 01:20:47,610
the entire field has begun to shift that

1656
01:20:52,010 --> 01:20:49,260
way and that that was caused by the

1657
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:52,020
discovery of a sense what a whole load

1658
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:52,330
of

1659
01:20:56,610 --> 01:20:55,030
means in Spain at a site called SEMA

1660
01:20:58,620 --> 01:20:56,620
Dallas wesauce which means the pit of

1661
01:21:01,650 --> 01:20:58,630
bones basically right and they found

1662
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:01,660
their DNA that went back to four hundred

1663
01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:03,370
and thirty thousand years ago and it

1664
01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:05,470
eventually turned out that the humans

1665
01:21:12,270 --> 01:21:08,860
that it was from our early Neanderthals

1666
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:12,280
and they managed to from that they

1667
01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:13,600
extract the genome they did the full

1668
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:14,860
genome they did all around they

1669
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:17,170
contrasted with Denisovan and modern

1670
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:18,730
human DNA and and all that good stuff

1671
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:20,560
and what they basically realized was

1672
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:22,810
that it pushed back the dates way back

1673
01:21:26,670 --> 01:21:24,640
and it showed that Neanderthals and us

1674
01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:26,680
kind of split a lot earlier than they'd

1675
01:21:32,490 --> 01:21:29,140
fought which meant that the origins of

1676
01:21:34,530 --> 01:21:32,500
the two went back to you closer to sort

1677
01:21:35,550 --> 01:21:34,540
between 700 and 800 thousand years ago

1678
01:21:37,410 --> 01:21:35,560
and that that's where that start

1679
01:21:38,610 --> 01:21:37,420
happening and then as separately there

1680
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:38,620
was a study that was looking at the

1681
01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:40,510
fossils from around Europe and I think

1682
01:21:44,490 --> 01:21:42,550
from further afield into Africa and

1683
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:44,500
Europe and they were as looking at the

1684
01:21:49,410 --> 01:21:47,410
particular the the dentistry but aspects

1685
01:21:52,110 --> 01:21:49,420
of the skull that it looked like the

1686
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:52,120
evolution of Homo sapiens as well yeah

1687
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:54,130
that this split went back to around 800

1688
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:57,610
or 900 thousand years ago so so the DNA

1689
01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:00,400
and the fossils in the last few years

1690
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:02,860
have both pushed that date way back from

1691
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:04,330
where used to be thought that you know

1692
01:22:08,580 --> 01:22:07,090
somewhere between 200 and 400 thousand

1693
01:22:10,140 --> 01:22:08,590
years ago that we'd have this split the

1694
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:10,150
Neanderthals now that's pushed way back

1695
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:12,010
so we now realize there's a common

1696
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:14,580
lineage for us Neanderthals Denisovans

1697
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:17,050
from an ancestor that lived around a

1698
01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:18,250
hundred thousand years ago so that

1699
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:20,710
that's been a kind of a massive rewrite

1700
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:22,330
just and that's just in the last sort of

1701
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:23,710
three years really that's been a massive

1702
01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:25,120
rewrite in the understanding of how

1703
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:28,420
those large brained human lineages have

1704
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:30,370
all come about and when they separated

1705
01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:31,930
so that's been oh yeah that's been the

1706
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:35,500
big change there and of when we start to

1707
01:22:41,670 --> 01:22:39,310
question what this reality actually

1708
01:22:43,890 --> 01:22:41,680
means you know are we talking about

1709
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:43,900
intelligence are we talking about you

1710
01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:48,490
know things that don't remind us of you

1711
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:50,620
know Stone Age primitive man are we

1712
01:22:56,670 --> 01:22:54,730
talking about a species that that talked

1713
01:23:00,540 --> 01:22:56,680
had language had technology thought

1714
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:00,550
about things did things that were

1715
01:23:04,380 --> 01:23:01,630
creative

1716
01:23:05,550 --> 01:23:04,390
you know we're thinkers yeah and just

1717
01:23:08,820 --> 01:23:05,560
recently

1718
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:08,830
for the last year are these caves

1719
01:23:20,610 --> 01:23:15,010
outside of Tel Aviv 400,000 years in the

1720
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:20,620
dating that apparently have evidence of

1721
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:25,920
cooking of the use of fire of hearths of

1722
01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:30,130
burials right burials like intentionally

1723
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:35,230
you know gravestones and now we okay

1724
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:36,850
that's when I go you know what now we're

1725
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:40,320
talking here this isn't something where

1726
01:23:44,670 --> 01:23:41,760
they were

1727
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,680
yeah banking tunnels together to eat and

1728
01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:47,520
and and and rolling around in the dirt

1729
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:50,260
that this is this is something else

1730
01:23:54,450 --> 01:23:52,330
altogether isn't it yeah yeah that's

1731
01:23:56,580 --> 01:23:54,460
right and that's that's really where I

1732
01:23:59,400 --> 01:23:56,590
say that the Homo sapiens you know

1733
01:24:01,230 --> 01:23:59,410
really amazing to see the thinking man I

1734
01:24:02,940 --> 01:24:01,240
mean that really we go back much further

1735
01:24:04,260 --> 01:24:02,950
than was for that your way back beyond

1736
01:24:06,180 --> 01:24:04,270
just the modern humans like modern

1737
01:24:08,250 --> 01:24:06,190
humans there's there are shifts you know

1738
01:24:10,050 --> 01:24:08,260
the makers different yeah again you know

1739
01:24:11,670 --> 01:24:10,060
more recently but when we start looking

1740
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:11,680
back we do realize that yeah that there

1741
01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:12,910
was a lot of what we would think of as

1742
01:24:16,830 --> 01:24:14,680
modern behavior you know that I you said

1743
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:16,840
got debate the use of rituals spiritual

1744
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,490
beliefs you know all that there's

1745
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:20,080
evidence of that and me a tool

1746
01:24:25,860 --> 01:24:22,960
manufacturing that's more radically you

1747
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:25,870
know requires more intelligence glue

1748
01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:27,670
processing they found I mean recently

1749
01:24:32,730 --> 01:24:30,160
found early as Fred's and those things

1750
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:32,740
between the and the Falls and all sort

1751
01:24:35,580 --> 01:24:33,760
of stuff is being rewritten you know the

1752
01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:35,590
realized they're sailing way earlier

1753
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:36,280
than we thought

1754
01:24:40,230 --> 01:24:38,290
it used to be for right that the first

1755
01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:40,240
boats were the first use of any kind of

1756
01:24:43,770 --> 01:24:41,830
sailing canoes whatever it was they used

1757
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:43,780
was around about fifty thousand years

1758
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:45,760
ago with modern humans you know down in

1759
01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:47,770
Southeast Asia and going across to

1760
01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:49,990
Australia right but now we know that

1761
01:24:53,490 --> 01:24:52,120
there's evidence on islands in the

1762
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:53,500
Mediterranean and off the coast of

1763
01:24:56,220 --> 01:24:54,790
Africa and other places that we were

1764
01:24:59,220 --> 01:24:56,230
sailing hundreds of thousand years ago

1765
01:25:00,780 --> 01:24:59,230
right at least seven hundred thousand

1766
01:25:03,180 --> 01:25:00,790
years ago or so that we're already

1767
01:25:05,490 --> 01:25:03,190
having to cross bodies of water so I

1768
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:05,500
mean well he takes a I think immediately

1769
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:06,730
you have to think you know how do you

1770
01:25:11,670 --> 01:25:09,100
convince a lot of people to go with you

1771
01:25:13,770 --> 01:25:11,680
across the sea I mean if you can't speak

1772
01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:13,780
or in some way communicate how are you

1773
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:14,920
going to convince people just to go out

1774
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:16,450
into the ocean with you right you know

1775
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:18,010
so you have to start thinking there must

1776
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:19,210
be communication

1777
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:21,130
to organize something like a mass trip

1778
01:25:25,470 --> 01:25:23,650
across water to an island right because

1779
01:25:28,170 --> 01:25:25,480
you can't just wave your arms around and

1780
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:28,180
join it right yeah exactly and that

1781
01:25:30,810 --> 01:25:29,410
everyone just follows you off into the

1782
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:30,820
water I mean it doesn't really make

1783
01:25:33,420 --> 01:25:32,530
sense unless there's a communication of

1784
01:25:35,850 --> 01:25:33,430
some sort

1785
01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:35,860
now it may only be some clicks and

1786
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:37,870
whistles and it might be hand signs you

1787
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:38,850
know we don't know what the first

1788
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:40,930
communication we've been like probably

1789
01:25:43,650 --> 01:25:42,310
was more than like a lot more simple

1790
01:25:45,390 --> 01:25:43,660
than we have in fact clicks and whistles

1791
01:25:46,979 --> 01:25:45,400
it's quite likely because we know that

1792
01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:46,989
there's still languages that are like

1793
01:25:52,620 --> 01:25:50,350
that in fact the the sound the COI sound

1794
01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:52,630
they have a click and whistle language I

1795
01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:55,900
wish has persisted to modern times down

1796
01:26:01,229 --> 01:25:58,480
in Australia there was a click based

1797
01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:01,239
language that I think may have faded out

1798
01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:02,950
now but there definitely was one up

1799
01:26:07,770 --> 01:26:06,160
until modern times and Danny's done in

1800
01:26:10,110 --> 01:26:07,780
South America towards Tierra del Fuego

1801
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:10,120
they also seems to be one so these these

1802
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:11,650
I think of the remnants of the first

1803
01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:12,850
languages cuz you can imagine they

1804
01:26:18,030 --> 01:26:15,790
copied bird noises animal sounds used to

1805
01:26:19,470 --> 01:26:18,040
clicking whistling you don't need to go

1806
01:26:21,150 --> 01:26:19,480
to speak right you can convey a lot of

1807
01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:21,160
information from that like if you're out

1808
01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:22,780
hunting those kind always really useful

1809
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:24,280
cuz you can copy animals does you don't

1810
01:26:29,010 --> 01:26:27,130
surprise or game right so they kind of

1811
01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:29,020
you can imagine who's naturally evolving

1812
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:30,190
ways to communicating in the field

1813
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:32,530
hunting and stuff right so I think that

1814
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:33,820
we probably had a piece of communication

1815
01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:36,370
going back to that really early point

1816
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:38,590
you know 700,000 years ago so when we

1817
01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:41,110
began to cross water particularly

1818
01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:43,060
because I just can't see that you can

1819
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:45,550
construct you know your log boat and

1820
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:46,750
then you expect everyone else to do and

1821
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:48,370
follow you unless you're convincing them

1822
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:50,170
that we're going somewhere you know and

1823
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:51,250
this you're not going to die out there

1824
01:26:54,180 --> 01:26:52,690
that there's an island or something you

1825
01:26:57,660 --> 01:26:54,190
know how how else you get them to follow

1826
01:27:02,880 --> 01:26:57,670
you right well it's one thing to push

1827
01:27:05,370 --> 01:27:02,890
back the evolutionary process with with

1828
01:27:09,330 --> 01:27:05,380
early humans that's one thing and that

1829
01:27:12,410 --> 01:27:09,340
is definitely open to discussion but

1830
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:12,420
bringing in an alien offworld

1831
01:27:17,729 --> 01:27:15,370
intervention into this process that's a

1832
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:17,739
whole other thing altogether so how do

1833
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:21,940
we introduce alien or ET contact into

1834
01:27:25,650 --> 01:27:24,850
this yeah I mean it's obviously from the

1835
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:25,660
mainstream views

1836
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:27,610
he's been enough for them just to have

1837
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,010
to push back their dates if we must be

1838
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:32,400
bright traumatic enough

1839
01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:34,770
without any any consideration of there

1840
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:36,900
being an artificial intervention any of

1841
01:27:41,630 --> 01:27:39,810
this right into you I think just the

1842
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:41,640
fact they might work you know I place

1843
01:27:46,820 --> 01:27:44,489
the major events of this story down in

1844
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:46,830
Australia and you can imagine that

1845
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:49,650
really doesn't gel well with the holy

1846
01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:50,370
cow

1847
01:27:53,870 --> 01:27:52,260
of out of Africa I mean again because he

1848
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:53,880
was supposedly everything of importance

1849
01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:57,090
you know our story really is in Africa

1850
01:28:01,880 --> 01:27:59,340
until about about fifty thousand years

1851
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:01,890
according to the mainstream view so I'm

1852
01:28:07,459 --> 01:28:04,710
really really changing the whole basis

1853
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:07,469
of that story the location you know the

1854
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:10,050
dating and then how it Peretz come about

1855
01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:13,199
now we know today that there are

1856
01:28:17,810 --> 01:28:15,420
cultures all around the world that tell

1857
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:17,820
us that they believe that there was an

1858
01:28:24,740 --> 01:28:20,370
intervention event you know that's not

1859
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:24,750
new I think almost any continent on the

1860
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:26,610
planet other than Antarctica I think

1861
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:28,890
you'll find that that that story is told

1862
01:28:32,689 --> 01:28:31,320
right that there's been visitation or

1863
01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:32,699
there's alien gods or there's

1864
01:28:36,770 --> 01:28:34,830
international beings that kind of

1865
01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:36,780
interact and in love those stories there

1866
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:40,860
is a kind of a process involving DNA or

1867
01:28:45,410 --> 01:28:43,890
genetics or interbreeding and that's a

1868
01:28:48,530 --> 01:28:45,420
recurring theme the idea even ashamed

1869
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:48,540
ism of spirit families and their spirit

1870
01:28:51,979 --> 01:28:50,610
wives and you know that dice that's

1871
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:51,989
really old stuff you know that's

1872
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:54,330
perspective as far as we know it goes

1873
01:28:58,850 --> 01:28:56,090
back to the beginning of when we were

1874
01:29:00,050 --> 01:28:58,860
able to convey stories you know when we

1875
01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:00,060
were able to understand what was going

1876
01:29:02,899 --> 01:29:01,260
on that we've been having these

1877
01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:02,909
experiences we mean having some kind of

1878
01:29:09,919 --> 01:29:06,540
contact but it's not new now on top of

1879
01:29:12,350 --> 01:29:09,929
that if you accept the intuitive

1880
01:29:14,750 --> 01:29:12,360
abilities of human beings the psychical

1881
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:14,760
capacities we also know from people that

1882
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:16,770
have those sort of skills that they

1883
01:29:22,250 --> 01:29:19,890
often tap into information that reflects

1884
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:22,260
the same thing all they encounter beings

1885
01:29:26,270 --> 01:29:23,850
entities you know the we call those

1886
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:26,280
alien spirits ghosts whatever that also

1887
01:29:29,570 --> 01:29:28,080
seemed to share that information to them

1888
01:29:31,070 --> 01:29:29,580
right this this feeling keeps coming ups

1889
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:31,080
and there's been this visitation there's

1890
01:29:36,290 --> 01:29:34,110
been you know this is a program of some

1891
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:36,300
sort a modification and hybrid program

1892
01:29:41,330 --> 01:29:38,610
now my work is a little bit different

1893
01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:41,340
because I don't focus too much on or

1894
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:43,320
week or suppose that modern phenomena

1895
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:45,050
like the abductions

1896
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:47,930
and you know the singing extraction of

1897
01:29:53,020 --> 01:29:51,410
DNA and the the making of hybrids that

1898
01:29:54,490 --> 01:29:53,030
appears to be happening in the current

1899
01:29:57,190 --> 01:29:54,500
events right you know so we're going

1900
01:29:59,680 --> 01:29:57,200
back long ago but that what I suggest is

1901
01:30:02,020 --> 01:29:59,690
that this is a process that you know is

1902
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:02,030
still happening you know there's still

1903
01:30:06,370 --> 01:30:04,250
some kind of interest in us for our DNA

1904
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:06,380
and where we're going but you know I

1905
01:30:10,420 --> 01:30:07,730
look to this you know quite differently

1906
01:30:12,010 --> 01:30:10,430
because although I had knowledge of that

1907
01:30:14,530 --> 01:30:12,020
and we've had some experiences myself to

1908
01:30:16,330 --> 01:30:14,540
be honest my my wife's contact II and

1909
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:16,340
she's had a lot of experiences I've had

1910
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:19,850
some you know experiences so we're very

1911
01:30:23,650 --> 01:30:22,310
aware of the modern phenomena but what

1912
01:30:26,590 --> 01:30:23,660
happened to us of course we got we got

1913
01:30:29,020 --> 01:30:26,600
involved in a case which is coming out

1914
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:29,030
of Australia where there's in fact a

1915
01:30:35,740 --> 01:30:33,440
group of people who interacted with an

1916
01:30:38,350 --> 01:30:35,750
artifact there which is called a chinga

1917
01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:38,360
now taringa if someone points out to me

1918
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:39,920
sounds awfully like the other Cognex you

1919
01:30:44,620 --> 01:30:42,050
got this these kind of looks like stone

1920
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:44,630
tablets right they have engravings on

1921
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:46,910
they are highly sacred they're not

1922
01:30:50,710 --> 01:30:48,290
supposed to be shown to be this but she

1923
01:30:52,930 --> 01:30:50,720
kept by the the clever the clever man

1924
01:30:55,570 --> 01:30:52,940
which is kind of the shaman's that they

1925
01:30:58,090 --> 01:30:55,580
believed to reside you know the higher

1926
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:58,100
consciousness in them and wisdom and

1927
01:31:00,580 --> 01:30:59,360
knowledge in them you know they were

1928
01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:00,590
saying let's be honest show and they

1929
01:31:03,670 --> 01:31:01,550
said it sounds like the Ark of the

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01:31:04,990 --> 01:31:03,680
Covenant of the the tablets they're

1931
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:05,000
given to them right they put in the Ark

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01:31:08,050 --> 01:31:07,040
of the Covenant because which is kind of

1933
01:31:09,250 --> 01:31:08,060
funny because that's the same kind of

1934
01:31:11,230 --> 01:31:09,260
story says you know that the priests

1935
01:31:12,910 --> 01:31:11,240
have to look after them that God can

1936
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:12,920
speak through it you know he says you

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01:31:16,270 --> 01:31:14,210
know the communication would direct from

1938
01:31:18,310 --> 01:31:16,280
sort of the Ark right and that there is

1939
01:31:20,650 --> 01:31:18,320
you know engravings on it that they

1940
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:20,660
carried around and hidden only brought

1941
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:22,850
by the high priests you know I hadn't

1942
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:24,290
reclaimed it before and so they sound

1943
01:31:28,210 --> 01:31:26,450
sort of like this is very similar it's

1944
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:28,220
made me wonder if we don't have these

1945
01:31:32,860 --> 01:31:31,490
similar artifacts given to different

1946
01:31:34,780 --> 01:31:32,870
groups you know really early in time

1947
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:34,790
that they're left here but let me out

1948
01:31:38,110 --> 01:31:36,560
let me jump in right there Bruce we got

1949
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:38,120
to take a break we'll pick up right

1950
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where we are when we come back our guest

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tonight Bruce our Fenton we are talking

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EXO Genesis human hybrids a scientific

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history of extraterrestrial genetic

1955
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manipulation on mural Jimmy church this

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01:35:35,350 --> 01:35:33,340
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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01:35:39,050 --> 01:35:35,360
Network

2031
01:35:42,350 --> 01:35:39,060
hi I'm Lisa Vance you're listening Jimmy

2032
01:35:45,379 --> 01:35:42,360
Church this is revolution the revolution

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01:35:52,420 --> 01:35:45,389
will not be televised the revolution is

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01:36:29,700 --> 01:36:27,010
[Music]

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01:36:31,810 --> 01:36:29,710
[Applause]

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01:36:33,970 --> 01:36:31,820
welcome back fade to black I'm your

2037
01:36:37,660 --> 01:36:33,980
Jimmy Church on the game changer Network

2038
01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:37,670
and K GRA the planet you can follow me

2039
01:36:45,070 --> 01:36:41,360
on twitter at J Church radio simple

2040
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:45,080
enough and before we move forward Bruce

2041
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:49,280
what's your what's your Twitter yes if

2042
01:36:54,910 --> 01:36:51,770
people are following on that EXO Genesis

2043
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:54,920
and then H H like the hybrid humans exa

2044
01:37:00,700 --> 01:36:57,890
Genesis HH there you go we've got it up

2045
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:00,710
in Twitter and you can go and click and

2046
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follow Bruce the book is called EXO

2047
01:37:08,380 --> 01:37:05,780
Genesis hybrid humans a scientific

2048
01:37:10,300 --> 01:37:08,390
history of extra-terrestrial genetic

2049
01:37:13,420 --> 01:37:10,310
manipulation co-authored with his wife

2050
01:37:15,340 --> 01:37:13,430
Daniela and right before the break the

2051
01:37:17,020 --> 01:37:15,350
links for the book or over at Jimmy

2052
01:37:20,650 --> 01:37:17,030
Church radio calm you can just click

2053
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:20,660
it's an excellent read we left off right

2054
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:24,130
before the break we were talking about

2055
01:37:35,650 --> 01:37:30,770
some evidence that it's similar to you

2056
01:37:37,900 --> 01:37:35,660
know the tablets you know and the with

2057
01:37:40,530 --> 01:37:37,910
with Moses and you know the Ten

2058
01:37:45,460 --> 01:37:40,540
Commandments yeah and have you seen

2059
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:45,470
evidence of these tablets well I've got

2060
01:37:48,610 --> 01:37:47,090
the evidence in terms of an indirect way

2061
01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:48,620
and I'll tell you how that is what

2062
01:37:52,810 --> 01:37:51,230
happened was there was a lady well it

2063
01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:52,820
still is it was she's still alive

2064
01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:53,990
there's a lady cook Valerie Barrow

2065
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:56,390
that's based out in Australia she is

2066
01:38:01,090 --> 01:37:58,730
she's a past life regression therapist

2067
01:38:03,070 --> 01:38:01,100
and an intuitive she had a restraint

2068
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:03,080
iteration back in the early 90s where

2069
01:38:07,810 --> 01:38:05,930
she had named her house out syringa

2070
01:38:09,070 --> 01:38:07,820
which is a an Aboriginal word which

2071
01:38:10,330 --> 01:38:09,080
means basically it's equivalents what we

2072
01:38:13,870 --> 01:38:10,340
think of as the Dreamtime or the

2073
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:13,880
beginning time right in the our Entei

2074
01:38:18,370 --> 01:38:16,130
language and she just shows that she

2075
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:18,380
thought was a nice word you know she's

2076
01:38:22,930 --> 01:38:21,110
not actually indigenous and then this

2077
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,940
this lady concern said that you know

2078
01:38:27,340 --> 01:38:25,040
because of the name of your house I feel

2079
01:38:29,470 --> 01:38:27,350
like you are the person have to ask to

2080
01:38:30,940 --> 01:38:29,480
look after this this artifact this

2081
01:38:32,830 --> 01:38:30,950
ancient artifact while I go into

2082
01:38:34,990 --> 01:38:32,840
hospital for some treatment for a

2083
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:35,000
serious condition I've got to leave it

2084
01:38:37,660 --> 01:38:36,080
with somebody and I really feel like

2085
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:37,670
maybe you're meant to look after it so

2086
01:38:40,030 --> 01:38:38,960
as well as weird you know synchrony

2087
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:40,040
stirs I guess that happens if you work

2088
01:38:43,950 --> 01:38:41,920
in allistic and

2089
01:38:45,959 --> 01:38:43,960
no you don't see a positive way for is

2090
01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:45,969
intuitive so you accept things they're

2091
01:38:48,959 --> 01:38:47,620
strange if you work in those kind of

2092
01:38:51,209 --> 01:38:48,969
areas right because strange things

2093
01:38:53,010 --> 01:38:51,219
happen to people working as psychics my

2094
01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:53,020
diction therapist northing so she took

2095
01:38:55,919 --> 01:38:54,160
it on but she said yeah look I'll look

2096
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:55,929
after it you know and this object was

2097
01:38:59,820 --> 01:38:58,000
wrapped up in paper bark which is the

2098
01:39:01,050 --> 01:38:59,830
bark of the paper treating there's a

2099
01:39:02,430 --> 01:39:01,060
tree not sure it looks like paper just

2100
01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:02,440
falls off of it and one's familiar with

2101
01:39:06,570 --> 01:39:04,270
that but it was wrapped up in this paper

2102
01:39:08,010 --> 01:39:06,580
bark and then so she put it in a box put

2103
01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:08,020
it away and the lady said you know not

2104
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:09,190
to look on air you're not supposed to

2105
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:10,810
touch this thing so just put in a box

2106
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:14,080
kept in a spare room and thought nothing

2107
01:39:17,370 --> 01:39:16,210
only at first right she's four okay you

2108
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:17,380
know kind of strange but she was happy

2109
01:39:22,410 --> 01:39:20,080
to help out and then within a very short

2110
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:22,420
period she started having essentially at

2111
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:25,449
this carnot voice directly speaking into

2112
01:39:29,370 --> 01:39:27,760
her mind like froze me then crazy

2113
01:39:31,229 --> 01:39:29,380
doesn't but I mean she had this voice

2114
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:31,239
and he was telling her that it was cool

2115
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:33,580
Alger inga and that it was a being from

2116
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:35,890
the dreams on the beginning time the

2117
01:39:40,020 --> 01:39:38,050
creation of humans when all other things

2118
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:40,030
began and was telling her this whole

2119
01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:43,360
history of humanity in a lost period

2120
01:39:46,919 --> 01:39:45,340
where there'd been a visitation that

2121
01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:46,929
they'd been modifications and so she

2122
01:39:49,410 --> 01:39:48,190
starting said you're gonna have to write

2123
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:49,420
a book and he's telling her so she's

2124
01:39:52,380 --> 01:39:51,130
like writing this stuff down you know

2125
01:39:54,209 --> 01:39:52,390
recording everything that comes through

2126
01:39:55,979 --> 01:39:54,219
but the other really I mean if that's

2127
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:55,989
not crazy enough the other thing that it

2128
01:40:01,020 --> 01:39:58,210
said was you're gonna meet other people

2129
01:40:02,310 --> 01:40:01,030
and they're gonna also remember this and

2130
01:40:04,590 --> 01:40:02,320
you're gonna find those people that have

2131
01:40:06,330 --> 01:40:04,600
lived a life before that was connected

2132
01:40:08,370 --> 01:40:06,340
with this and they can remember it right

2133
01:40:11,130 --> 01:40:08,380
and it so in the end she ended up came

2134
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:11,140
about 30 or 40 different people some

2135
01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:12,610
food work some food the regression

2136
01:40:16,620 --> 01:40:15,040
therapies but some just random people

2137
01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:16,630
you know some were friends of hers and

2138
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:19,150
it turns out that they remember bits of

2139
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:21,250
this story of this craft coming here and

2140
01:40:25,020 --> 01:40:22,719
that each one of them had a piece of the

2141
01:40:27,419 --> 01:40:25,030
puzzle and it meshed with what this

2142
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:27,429
entity in this voice had been telling

2143
01:40:31,860 --> 01:40:30,250
her and literally had a kind of you know

2144
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:31,870
job or a confirmation you've gone the

2145
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:33,040
one hand you've got a strange voice

2146
01:40:36,209 --> 01:40:34,840
talking to you so you might think you've

2147
01:40:37,950 --> 01:40:36,219
gone crazy but then you're meeting

2148
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:37,960
people and they're saying to you I

2149
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:39,730
remember being on the ship or I remember

2150
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:41,650
being one of the beings on the earth

2151
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:44,050
they actually shot the ship down right

2152
01:40:48,510 --> 01:40:47,110
the really strange stuff now okay I'm

2153
01:40:50,910 --> 01:40:48,520
giving you a bit of leaving your head

2154
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:50,920
there but essentially the core story was

2155
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:52,690
that there was an arrival to this planet

2156
01:40:57,330 --> 01:40:55,810
through a Stargate from the Pleiades

2157
01:41:00,120 --> 01:40:57,340
and that this large ship containing

2158
01:41:01,260 --> 01:41:00,130
50,000 beings arrived here and we're

2159
01:41:02,970 --> 01:41:01,270
talking you know all the way hundreds

2160
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:02,980
thousands years back and I see I since

2161
01:41:06,030 --> 01:41:05,170
dated this to seven hundred eighty

2162
01:41:08,370 --> 01:41:06,040
thousand but you know two hundred

2163
01:41:10,350 --> 01:41:08,380
thousands of years ago and telling you

2164
01:41:12,780 --> 01:41:10,360
that you know after the destruction of a

2165
01:41:16,050 --> 01:41:12,790
ship a few survivors came down and that

2166
01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:16,060
they later began modifying and early

2167
01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:18,280
hominin species which would lead to the

2168
01:41:23,580 --> 01:41:20,590
creation of Homo sapiens now you could

2169
01:41:24,630 --> 01:41:23,590
say okay is it just crazy sci-fi you

2170
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:24,640
know and it would have been maybe left

2171
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:28,390
like that if I hadn't personally you

2172
01:41:31,710 --> 01:41:30,370
know look to that and for for my own

2173
01:41:33,930 --> 01:41:31,720
reasons because of experiences I've had

2174
01:41:36,420 --> 01:41:33,940
and my wife's had and context her that

2175
01:41:37,730 --> 01:41:36,430
you know I felt this was real but I

2176
01:41:40,740 --> 01:41:37,740
wondered you know could it be

2177
01:41:41,930 --> 01:41:40,750
substantiated with objective evidence

2178
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:41,940
because you know you get all these

2179
01:41:46,860 --> 01:41:44,650
accounts right you know like psychic

2180
01:41:48,990 --> 01:41:46,870
messages channeling contact accounts and

2181
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:49,000
usually you can't validate them you know

2182
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:51,760
you just have to take it or not you know

2183
01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:54,070
not people says it vibrate with you or

2184
01:41:58,020 --> 01:41:56,230
whatever right but you know I thought I

2185
01:41:59,970 --> 01:41:58,030
hey but you know be nice to have one at

2186
01:42:02,040 --> 01:41:59,980
least one where you can say you know

2187
01:42:03,810 --> 01:42:02,050
let's not just take it as you know if it

2188
01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:03,820
vibes with you go with it but actually

2189
01:42:08,580 --> 01:42:06,160
to have objective scientific evidence

2190
01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:08,590
where you can go to your friends or you

2191
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:11,260
know to your partner and say you know

2192
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:12,850
you've always brought I'm crazy we'll

2193
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:15,010
look you know this time there's actually

2194
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:16,450
evidence right because I think

2195
01:42:19,890 --> 01:42:18,730
everyone's at that point where they want

2196
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:19,900
that right you know they get tired

2197
01:42:24,780 --> 01:42:22,390
happen to to sort of just say oh well I

2198
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:24,790
believe it but I can't prove it and so

2199
01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:25,900
that's where I keep dive down and I

2200
01:42:30,210 --> 01:42:27,760
actually was able to find the

2201
01:42:32,130 --> 01:42:30,220
substantiating evidence that supports

2202
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:32,140
the core elements of that story that a

2203
01:42:37,410 --> 01:42:34,450
ship came here was blown up you know

2204
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:37,420
identified the debris the the humans

2205
01:42:41,730 --> 01:42:38,890
were modified I've identified the

2206
01:42:43,370 --> 01:42:41,740
genetic signatures and another event

2207
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:43,380
they described was a multi-directional

2208
01:42:48,180 --> 01:42:45,760
asteroid bombardment at the same time

2209
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:48,190
and I've also identified that so it was

2210
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:50,890
like the free biggest core aspects of

2211
01:42:57,090 --> 01:42:53,440
the story I've been able to validate now

2212
01:43:00,170 --> 01:42:57,100
before we get further into this and in

2213
01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:00,180
the debris field which goes and must

2214
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:05,320
actually countenance right yeah exactly

2215
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:07,600
so before we get into that

2216
01:43:14,490 --> 01:43:12,130
there is for me other things that point

2217
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:14,500
away from Africa these days too as well

2218
01:43:22,410 --> 01:43:19,120
and not only the the Denisovan aspect of

2219
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:22,420
this which is nobody knew

2220
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:23,890
yet nobody knew anything about

2221
01:43:31,950 --> 01:43:27,250
Denisovans 20 years ago and and and

2222
01:43:34,110 --> 01:43:31,960
today this is a very exciting new

2223
01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:34,120
research that is starting to play out

2224
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:37,870
but i i point directly at gobekli tepe

2225
01:43:44,340 --> 01:43:41,860
and the reason why i do is because not

2226
01:43:48,210 --> 01:43:44,350
only of its age and and when it was

2227
01:43:51,690 --> 01:43:48,220
built and we have the the factual side

2228
01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:51,700
of this it wasn't supposed to exist but

2229
01:43:58,740 --> 01:43:54,640
i also look at now not only because of

2230
01:44:02,220 --> 01:43:58,750
the Denisovan but i look to the north i

2231
01:44:04,590 --> 01:44:02,230
don't look to the south for the creation

2232
01:44:07,740 --> 01:44:04,600
of this you know the out of africa side

2233
01:44:10,710 --> 01:44:07,750
of things i think that the civilizations

2234
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:10,720
were intelligent and high technology and

2235
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:13,110
came from the north and came out of

2236
01:44:20,820 --> 01:44:17,890
siberia and and came south instead of

2237
01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:20,830
going north you know out of the central

2238
01:44:28,110 --> 01:44:24,820
plains of africa and lucy and and and

2239
01:44:30,900 --> 01:44:28,120
coming up through mesopotamia and

2240
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:30,910
heading north and that is direct

2241
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:34,570
evidence and would also suggest that you

2242
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:38,560
are right that Meneses airily everything

2243
01:44:44,580 --> 01:44:41,890
come out of lucy in the in the central

2244
01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:44,590
plains of africa that there was stronger

2245
01:44:51,380 --> 01:44:46,870
evidence now that it came from the north

2246
01:44:57,390 --> 01:44:51,390
and also came out of the far east with

2247
01:45:00,240 --> 01:44:57,400
with australia and southern asia yeah he

2248
01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:00,250
said it was a regional to multi-region

2249
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:02,500
his theory which was that really you've

2250
01:45:08,670 --> 01:45:06,730
got evolution is occurring across all of

2251
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:08,680
the habits of the lands in a way so what

2252
01:45:11,730 --> 01:45:10,480
you're you have and if i be again with

2253
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:11,740
this story to penny where you want to

2254
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:13,570
start you only different locations so

2255
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:14,800
again there's a bit of an abstract of

2256
01:45:17,790 --> 01:45:16,210
where do we start the story because if

2257
01:45:18,939 --> 01:45:17,800
you go back to the beginnings of early

2258
01:45:20,410 --> 01:45:18,949
primates

2259
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:20,420
right you know that basically which was

2260
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:22,639
just monkeys they're about millions of

2261
01:45:26,350 --> 01:45:24,650
years ago now until millions of nosey so

2262
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:26,360
you have those there down east East Asia

2263
01:45:30,250 --> 01:45:27,920
so if you wanted to start the story

2264
01:45:32,259 --> 01:45:30,260
primates that goes to East Asia now then

2265
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:32,269
there's a climate event and you know

2266
01:45:36,189 --> 01:45:34,010
wrapping star thirty five million years

2267
01:45:37,779 --> 01:45:36,199
ago so and they've been to move they

2268
01:45:38,890 --> 01:45:37,789
move it across into Europe you know

2269
01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:38,900
there's an eeveelution in Europe

2270
01:45:41,979 --> 01:45:40,880
this goes on for millions of years and

2271
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:41,989
you know then they move a draft foot

2272
01:45:44,649 --> 01:45:43,280
cursor so I mean you could kind of say

2273
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:44,659
well where do you start the story right

2274
01:45:48,699 --> 01:45:46,130
it's all depends on what you consider as

2275
01:45:50,529 --> 01:45:48,709
the important parts now very recently

2276
01:45:52,350 --> 01:45:50,539
they found some fossils down in the

2277
01:45:54,969 --> 01:45:52,360
Mediterranean area which suggests that

2278
01:45:56,770 --> 01:45:54,979
possibly the first hominins you know the

2279
01:45:58,330 --> 01:45:56,780
first kind of early humans then they may

2280
01:46:00,819 --> 01:45:58,340
have been in the Mediterranean right

2281
01:46:02,199 --> 01:46:00,829
rather than Africa but these people get

2282
01:46:03,790 --> 01:46:02,209
very sensitive about these topics and

2283
01:46:06,339 --> 01:46:03,800
they shouldn't because we are just

2284
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:06,349
talking about science right as you know

2285
01:46:11,109 --> 01:46:09,170
these have become like sensitive issues

2286
01:46:12,759 --> 01:46:11,119
right where if you question these

2287
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:12,769
stories some people will assume straight

2288
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,760
away that you're in some way being

2289
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,679
discriminative or you know you're in a

2290
01:46:19,569 --> 01:46:17,360
hate group or something because you're

2291
01:46:21,129 --> 01:46:19,579
questioning out of Africa now that

2292
01:46:24,399 --> 01:46:21,139
shouldn't be like that you know we

2293
01:46:26,339 --> 01:46:24,409
should be able to calmly coolly say you

2294
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:26,349
know where's the evidence pointing to

2295
01:46:30,759 --> 01:46:28,489
sure there's lots of strong evidence

2296
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:30,769
that a great part of the story happened

2297
01:46:34,209 --> 01:46:32,570
in Africa right that's still you know

2298
01:46:36,489 --> 01:46:34,219
there's a lot of it happened there but

2299
01:46:38,169 --> 01:46:36,499
then when we get to the bit about a homo

2300
01:46:39,819 --> 01:46:38,179
sapiens and up to that area when we

2301
01:46:41,529 --> 01:46:39,829
within the last million years that's

2302
01:46:45,009 --> 01:46:41,539
that's different because we've already

2303
01:46:47,229 --> 01:46:45,019
got evidence to Homo erectus you know it

2304
01:46:50,859 --> 01:46:47,239
was definitely a well I'd supported the

2305
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:50,869
really the first true homo of the Homo

2306
01:46:56,049 --> 01:46:53,570
genus he's out and about is all across

2307
01:46:57,969 --> 01:46:56,059
the world by about 1.8 million years ago

2308
01:47:01,060 --> 01:46:57,979
right down into Southeast Asia okay so

2309
01:47:03,609 --> 01:47:01,070
you've got a potential in fact very

2310
01:47:05,770 --> 01:47:03,619
likely ancestor the photo sapiens race

2311
01:47:08,199 --> 01:47:05,780
is in Africa and is in the Middle East

2312
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:08,209
and is down in Southeast everywhere

2313
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:10,489
company in years ago right so at that

2314
01:47:14,799 --> 01:47:12,530
point the story is no longer just

2315
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:14,809
African centric yeah that these

2316
01:47:17,799 --> 01:47:16,249
different populations of Homo erectus

2317
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,809
would have been interbreeding they would

2318
01:47:21,729 --> 01:47:19,280
have been mixing such as they split off

2319
01:47:23,229 --> 01:47:21,739
you know the isolate for a while in one

2320
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:23,239
area then they bump into another group

2321
01:47:27,580 --> 01:47:25,280
and from then on it's more of a multi

2322
01:47:29,649 --> 01:47:27,590
regional story and this is something

2323
01:47:32,020 --> 01:47:29,659
that was always a you know is it coming

2324
01:47:32,830 --> 01:47:32,030
around on model or the multi-regional

2325
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:32,840
model

2326
01:47:36,370 --> 01:47:34,489
it was for a long time it was kind of

2327
01:47:37,870 --> 01:47:36,380
dismissed and put to the side it was

2328
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:37,880
like no no this has been a singular

2329
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:40,250
story of just you know millions of years

2330
01:47:44,379 --> 01:47:42,650
in Africa and then finally in the last

2331
01:47:46,209 --> 01:47:44,389
sort of hundred thousand years we've

2332
01:47:48,339 --> 01:47:46,219
started to come out of Africa right and

2333
01:47:49,780 --> 01:47:48,349
that's been the conventional story but

2334
01:47:51,010 --> 01:47:49,790
that is really collapsed I mean that the

2335
01:47:54,370 --> 01:47:51,020
honest truth is that story is really

2336
01:47:56,290 --> 01:47:54,380
collapsing you said this now it looks

2337
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:56,300
far more like we have that going on and

2338
01:48:01,750 --> 01:47:59,119
then Homo sapiens in my view obviously

2339
01:48:04,270 --> 01:48:01,760
I'm arguing here emerge down in

2340
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:04,280
Australasia and in that region and then

2341
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:06,770
also with movements of people in East

2342
01:48:10,060 --> 01:48:08,810
Asia that a lot that early part the

2343
01:48:11,890 --> 01:48:10,070
story from around the entry thousand

2344
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:11,900
years ago is now looking like it was in

2345
01:48:15,820 --> 01:48:14,210
East Asian in China because they found a

2346
01:48:17,589 --> 01:48:15,830
lot of the trampled they're called

2347
01:48:20,890 --> 01:48:17,599
transitional fossils which is between

2348
01:48:22,540 --> 01:48:20,900
Homo erectus and us we can see some of

2349
01:48:24,910 --> 01:48:22,550
the elements of our structure you know

2350
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:24,920
our face our bones you can see that in

2351
01:48:28,870 --> 01:48:27,770
fossils in China the between a hundred

2352
01:48:30,580 --> 01:48:28,880
thousand to two hundred thousand years

2353
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:30,590
ago and well the problems in Africa is

2354
01:48:33,070 --> 01:48:32,210
in fact the early part some eight

2355
01:48:34,540 --> 01:48:33,080
hundred thousand to five hundred

2356
01:48:36,399 --> 01:48:34,550
thousand years ago so there's not really

2357
01:48:38,050 --> 01:48:36,409
transitional fossils so it's like well

2358
01:48:39,970 --> 01:48:38,060
where were we then right where were we

2359
01:48:41,950 --> 01:48:39,980
then so I'm not saying that we weren't

2360
01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:41,960
also in Africa later because once once

2361
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:43,670
he was moving around they spread they

2362
01:48:46,570 --> 01:48:44,210
move around

2363
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:46,580
we'll also think of it like this way if

2364
01:48:49,689 --> 01:48:48,650
you grab Africa and go in like the same

2365
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:49,699
as if you go out of East Asian coming

2366
01:48:52,959 --> 01:48:51,650
that we have this kind of straight view

2367
01:48:55,330 --> 01:48:52,969
that you know this one way you know you

2368
01:48:56,979 --> 01:48:55,340
go out and then migration and it just

2369
01:48:58,240 --> 01:48:56,989
goes off somewhere but what the way the

2370
01:48:59,560 --> 01:48:58,250
changes the other way right

2371
01:49:01,660 --> 01:48:59,570
you know the climate shifts you go back

2372
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:01,670
you know so this model is getting more

2373
01:49:05,620 --> 01:49:03,110
and more complex they used to be this

2374
01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:05,630
simple story that we were going and now

2375
01:49:10,660 --> 01:49:08,080
we know it's it's mind-bendingly complex

2376
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:10,670
and it's a lot more to do the East Asia

2377
01:49:15,399 --> 01:49:13,250
and Australasia and these areas that

2378
01:49:17,010 --> 01:49:15,409
we've before and as you said I mean

2379
01:49:19,180 --> 01:49:17,020
there's you know there's evidence of

2380
01:49:21,729 --> 01:49:19,190
modern human populations up in the far

2381
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:21,739
north fifty thousand years ago now you

2382
01:49:25,180 --> 01:49:23,449
know nobody thought that anyone would be

2383
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:25,190
up there that early right up into the

2384
01:49:28,899 --> 01:49:27,110
Arctic Circle you know fifty thousand

2385
01:49:31,209 --> 01:49:28,909
years ago it seems all crazy cuz even

2386
01:49:33,700 --> 01:49:31,219
why would people be heading up into that

2387
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:33,710
ice you know like you know in their

2388
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:36,050
harsh times in their in the Ice Age and

2389
01:49:40,660 --> 01:49:37,760
stuff but they were you know we find the

2390
01:49:42,820 --> 01:49:40,670
evidence that they were so this this is

2391
01:49:45,399 --> 01:49:42,830
not just part of the story this game we

2392
01:49:46,210 --> 01:49:45,409
ran right the whole human story right

2393
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,220
from

2394
01:49:49,480 --> 01:49:48,080
you know the Younger Dryas you know the

2395
01:49:51,850 --> 01:49:49,490
13,000 year ago the mysterious events

2396
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:51,860
then all the way back to the origins of

2397
01:49:55,870 --> 01:49:54,080
our species there's a you know I'd say

2398
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:55,880
there's a huge rewrite that's going on

2399
01:50:04,470 --> 01:49:57,890
you know under wait through all of it

2400
01:50:07,900 --> 01:50:04,480
are we suggesting that there was

2401
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:07,910
constant alien contact you know

2402
01:50:12,580 --> 01:50:10,250
monitoring the development making the

2403
01:50:17,890 --> 01:50:12,590
changes maybe some education programs

2404
01:50:19,540 --> 01:50:17,900
going on DNA manipulation that didn't

2405
01:50:21,610 --> 01:50:19,550
just happen eight eight hundred thousand

2406
01:50:24,970 --> 01:50:21,620
years ago it could have been millions of

2407
01:50:28,330 --> 01:50:24,980
years ago it could have happened

2408
01:50:32,710 --> 01:50:28,340
throughout the history of the planet but

2409
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:32,720
through the development of homo sapien

2410
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:37,250
homo sapiens sapiens through to today

2411
01:50:45,420 --> 01:50:40,910
where this contact is here that they

2412
01:50:49,780 --> 01:50:45,430
were not not necessarily just in in

2413
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:49,790
Australia but all around the planet at

2414
01:50:55,630 --> 01:50:52,610
the same time there's no reason for for

2415
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:55,640
ET to just land in Melbourne right I

2416
01:51:03,070 --> 01:50:58,880
mean it would be all over the planet at

2417
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:03,080
the same time well the first is you only

2418
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:06,080
have to prove aliens once that's right

2419
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:07,250
that's right because once you do that

2420
01:51:10,180 --> 01:51:08,810
then you open the floodgates of having

2421
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:10,190
to re question everything else

2422
01:51:14,530 --> 01:51:11,840
especially anytime you find an anomaly

2423
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:14,540
somewhere right you know it changes the

2424
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:16,400
story if you find some ancient artifact

2425
01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:18,110
that shouldn't be there or if you find

2426
01:51:22,420 --> 01:51:20,510
another genetic anomaly a million years

2427
01:51:24,370 --> 01:51:22,430
earlier you know then you can say well

2428
01:51:26,020 --> 01:51:24,380
was it those those bloomin aliens again

2429
01:51:27,610 --> 01:51:26,030
because now we know they're real we know

2430
01:51:29,410 --> 01:51:27,620
they've meddled with us at least once a

2431
01:51:30,940 --> 01:51:29,420
intro fast musical then how many other

2432
01:51:32,260 --> 01:51:30,950
times have they been here how many other

2433
01:51:33,910 --> 01:51:32,270
times they meddled with us you know were

2434
01:51:36,250 --> 01:51:33,920
they always constantly doing this and

2435
01:51:38,260 --> 01:51:36,260
exactly right once you get to that point

2436
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:38,270
then you can start to have that that

2437
01:51:41,170 --> 01:51:39,530
discussion because we've had that

2438
01:51:42,430 --> 01:51:41,180
discussion in a way in the fringe but

2439
01:51:43,450 --> 01:51:42,440
the problem is we didn't have evidence

2440
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:43,460
where we could say but they were

2441
01:51:46,660 --> 01:51:45,530
definitely here at least once okay and

2442
01:51:48,190 --> 01:51:46,670
that's the difference here it's like I

2443
01:51:50,890 --> 01:51:48,200
think I've been known to put enough

2444
01:51:53,620 --> 01:51:50,900
evidence in on this one event this one

2445
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:53,630
period with the genetic data you know

2446
01:51:57,290 --> 01:51:55,770
the physical debris the other

2447
01:51:59,120 --> 01:51:57,300
you know the Nutri aspects all this

2448
01:52:01,720 --> 01:51:59,130
stuff was going on 70,000 years ago that

2449
01:52:05,150 --> 01:52:01,730
you get I would say is the best clear

2450
01:52:06,650 --> 01:52:05,160
signal the the big flag for we were here

2451
01:52:09,140 --> 01:52:06,660
then after that you can look at some

2452
01:52:10,670 --> 01:52:09,150
these other smaller events like 1.8

2453
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:10,680
million years ago there's a sudden leap

2454
01:52:14,420 --> 01:52:13,110
to homo erectus which you know again

2455
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:14,430
there's papers that points out something

2456
01:52:18,410 --> 01:52:16,290
some of the scientists consider before

2457
01:52:19,820 --> 01:52:18,420
that there wasn't really humans that the

2458
01:52:23,090 --> 01:52:19,830
leap is that significant from like a

2459
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:23,100
chimp like brain to a brain that's not

2460
01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:24,030
as big as ours but you know

2461
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:25,440
significantly larger and more

2462
01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:27,090
complicated brain about 1.8 million

2463
01:52:29,870 --> 01:52:28,350
years ago with Homo erectus who then

2464
01:52:31,670 --> 01:52:29,880
conquers the world Ryan goes out

2465
01:52:33,260 --> 01:52:31,680
conquers the world and that that again

2466
01:52:35,540 --> 01:52:33,270
has the flags of some engineering

2467
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:35,550
there's a whole lot of changes in the in

2468
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:39,690
in the way the brain neurons develop and

2469
01:52:43,940 --> 01:52:41,370
stuff right which to do with genetic

2470
01:52:45,860 --> 01:52:43,950
changes at the time right so I would say

2471
01:52:49,250 --> 01:52:45,870
that's another incidence that looks like

2472
01:52:50,900 --> 01:52:49,260
it's a modification also around about in

2473
01:52:53,060 --> 01:52:50,910
that period 200,000 years ago which we

2474
01:52:54,740 --> 01:52:53,070
touched on earlier there are some

2475
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:54,750
changes then there was recent paper came

2476
01:52:59,390 --> 01:52:57,360
out about DNA what's called DNA barcodes

2477
01:53:01,550 --> 01:52:59,400
people look this up and it turns out

2478
01:53:03,860 --> 01:53:01,560
that between about 100,000 to 200,000

2479
01:53:06,020 --> 01:53:03,870
years ago about 70 percent of all the

2480
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:06,030
animals on the planet their MT the

2481
01:53:10,610 --> 01:53:08,250
mitochondrial DNA lineage seems to be

2482
01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:10,620
new from around that point like some

2483
01:53:15,740 --> 01:53:12,450
major event something has happened that

2484
01:53:16,340 --> 01:53:15,750
has modified 70% of the creatures on the

2485
01:53:18,350 --> 01:53:16,350
planet

2486
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:18,360
right now that again can be a

2487
01:53:23,090 --> 01:53:21,360
modification event probably I would

2488
01:53:25,550 --> 01:53:23,100
suggest forcing on that scale he would

2489
01:53:28,190 --> 01:53:25,560
be seeding a virus into the atmosphere

2490
01:53:29,660 --> 01:53:28,200
that's been modified and I ran this past

2491
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:29,670
the guy who wrote the paper so I'm not

2492
01:53:33,590 --> 01:53:31,530
just sense and he agreed that this was a

2493
01:53:35,450 --> 01:53:33,600
possibility that he could be a virus as

2494
01:53:37,300 --> 01:53:35,460
infected all of these life forms it

2495
01:53:40,370 --> 01:53:37,310
brings new information into the system

2496
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:40,380
causes a radical mutation and then we

2497
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:43,170
can almost a refresh of species right

2498
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:44,850
and the viruses are a good way of doing

2499
01:53:48,620 --> 01:53:47,489
this with the virus going on now people

2500
01:53:50,300 --> 01:53:48,630
[\h__\h] on the back of their heads have a

2501
01:53:52,580 --> 01:53:50,310
little light go on yeah right yeah right

2502
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:52,590
because if these things rain down from

2503
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:54,090
the upper atmosphere you can have them

2504
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:55,530
rain down across the whole planet if

2505
01:54:00,110 --> 01:53:57,690
they're designed to infect specific

2506
01:54:01,580 --> 01:54:00,120
organisms then they will you know so it

2507
01:54:03,380 --> 01:54:01,590
doesn't have to be the target all of you

2508
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:03,390
the Qatar one species well you couldn't

2509
01:54:07,670 --> 01:54:05,250
modify a virus so targets many species

2510
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:07,680
right if you know you're doing you have

2511
01:54:09,500 --> 01:54:09,210
the modified retroviruses and they would

2512
01:54:10,970 --> 01:54:09,510
and they

2513
01:54:12,770 --> 01:54:10,980
rain down and viruses are raining down

2514
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:12,780
on us all the time this is something

2515
01:54:16,069 --> 01:54:14,400
that welcomes don't realize but up in

2516
01:54:17,689 --> 01:54:16,079
the upper atmosphere there are viruses

2517
01:54:20,620 --> 01:54:17,699
just swirling around and they rain down

2518
01:54:22,970 --> 01:54:20,630
all the time but most of them don't do

2519
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:22,980
anything obvious to you like some might

2520
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:25,050
infect other animals some might you know

2521
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:26,730
not do anything but they are the

2522
01:54:29,509 --> 01:54:28,289
constantly raining down and in fact your

2523
01:54:31,009 --> 01:54:29,519
immune system is built up by being

2524
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:31,019
outside partly because you're exposed to

2525
01:54:34,669 --> 01:54:32,730
viruses all the time the breathing them

2526
01:54:36,500 --> 01:54:34,679
in in the air right this is kind of kind

2527
01:54:39,740 --> 01:54:36,510
of how your immune systems being boosted

2528
01:54:41,810 --> 01:54:39,750
now if some of those are alien seeded

2529
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:41,820
then as you walk around you can hear you

2530
01:54:45,740 --> 01:54:43,530
breathing in something that is the next

2531
01:54:47,060 --> 01:54:45,750
leap in evolution and again you know

2532
01:54:49,250 --> 01:54:47,070
that what's happening now you should

2533
01:54:50,779 --> 01:54:49,260
question that I mean there's some weird

2534
01:54:52,189 --> 01:54:50,789
elements about that whole story because

2535
01:54:54,250 --> 01:54:52,199
I mean if you look at Chandra

2536
01:54:56,209 --> 01:54:54,260
Wickramasinghe who's the very famous

2537
01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:56,219
astrobiologist who writes about your

2538
01:55:01,609 --> 01:54:59,130
panspermia and alien viruses you know he

2539
01:55:03,290 --> 01:55:01,619
actually called this pandemic back in

2540
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:03,300
like November he said he fought the

2541
01:55:07,879 --> 01:55:04,650
pandemic coming because they'd had this

2542
01:55:09,649 --> 01:55:07,889
in which me try then over China and he

2543
01:55:11,060 --> 01:55:09,659
believed that you know spores of virus

2544
01:55:12,410 --> 01:55:11,070
have been brought in and he was saying

2545
01:55:14,060 --> 01:55:12,420
that we should maybe look out for a

2546
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:14,070
pandemic in the next few months now

2547
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:16,050
think about that go call it in November

2548
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:18,210
right he says I there was planted there

2549
01:55:23,689 --> 01:55:21,210
he says that if that's the case what

2550
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:23,699
will happen is when it rains down and

2551
01:55:29,649 --> 01:55:26,250
there's a direct transmission the impact

2552
01:55:32,180 --> 01:55:29,659
of that first infection is stronger so

2553
01:55:34,279 --> 01:55:32,190
those people will get stronger impacts

2554
01:55:36,439 --> 01:55:34,289
but then as its passed humans a human

2555
01:55:38,209 --> 01:55:36,449
that you get less disease or less you

2556
01:55:39,799 --> 01:55:38,219
know obvious symptoms of these viruses

2557
01:55:41,330 --> 01:55:39,809
and that kind of weird because we

2558
01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:41,340
haven't noticed that like with this car

2559
01:55:44,839 --> 01:55:43,920
embarrassed in some areas it's infected

2560
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:44,849
you know since it's done a lot more than

2561
01:55:47,540 --> 01:55:46,110
others right and someplace there's

2562
01:55:49,970 --> 01:55:47,550
nothing and in some places it's needs to

2563
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:49,980
be quite strong yeah and that's kind of

2564
01:55:53,419 --> 01:55:52,050
what he suggests would happen so again

2565
01:55:55,939 --> 01:55:53,429
this kind of messes with current events

2566
01:55:57,859 --> 01:55:55,949
to a degree right but these viruses

2567
01:55:59,450 --> 01:55:57,869
cannot say it definitely was modified in

2568
01:56:01,040 --> 01:55:59,460
a virus but we should keep on the back

2569
01:56:02,540 --> 01:56:01,050
of our minds but certainly that's one

2570
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:02,550
way to do this and I think that this has

2571
01:56:06,529 --> 01:56:04,170
happened throughout history I think the

2572
01:56:08,060 --> 01:56:06,539
he talks about the Cambrian explosion in

2573
01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:08,070
the same way says it could well have

2574
01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:10,590
been one of these alien viruses rained

2575
01:56:15,049 --> 01:56:12,960
down infected the life on the planet of

2576
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:15,059
time and then caused radical mutations

2577
01:56:19,250 --> 01:56:16,800
so you had all these species appearing

2578
01:56:21,620 --> 01:56:19,260
out nowhere because that generation of

2579
01:56:22,910 --> 01:56:21,630
whatever life existed was radically

2580
01:56:24,590 --> 01:56:22,920
mutated by this

2581
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:24,600
by us and started producing all these

2582
01:56:30,820 --> 01:56:26,850
new life forms right there's a huge leap

2583
01:56:34,370 --> 01:56:30,830
now when we talk about the Pleiades are

2584
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:34,380
we suggesting and when I say we I'm

2585
01:56:45,020 --> 01:56:40,650
saying you and I are we in a Pleiadian

2586
01:56:47,300 --> 01:56:45,030
image I would say yes because I mean

2587
01:56:49,340 --> 01:56:47,310
when you the encounters in terms of

2588
01:56:52,250 --> 01:56:49,350
contact experiences and in terms of the

2589
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:52,260
description from you know the people you

2590
01:56:54,650 --> 01:56:53,370
know in the book where people are

2591
01:56:56,510 --> 01:56:54,660
referred to obviously the comp the

2592
01:56:58,490 --> 01:56:56,520
contact he's in Australia and or but not

2593
01:57:00,380 --> 01:56:58,500
just them globally the people have an

2594
01:57:01,370 --> 01:57:00,390
interaction with beings that associate

2595
01:57:04,340 --> 01:57:01,380
themselves to the Pleiades

2596
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:04,350
most of those are human looking you know

2597
01:57:08,780 --> 01:57:06,000
they're not identical but they're human

2598
01:57:10,730 --> 01:57:08,790
looking they generally have our basic

2599
01:57:13,580 --> 01:57:10,740
form some people say the eyes are a bit

2600
01:57:17,450 --> 01:57:13,590
bigger but they're taller and they have

2601
01:57:18,740 --> 01:57:17,460
a slight bluish tinge to their skin you

2602
01:57:20,270 --> 01:57:18,750
know but I think these are the same

2603
01:57:21,590 --> 01:57:20,280
beings that some people call like Nordic

2604
01:57:24,230 --> 01:57:21,600
looking say look how annoyed looking but

2605
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:24,240
they're not actually white like you know

2606
01:57:29,540 --> 01:57:26,730
European it's more like you know they're

2607
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:29,550
humanoid humanoid yeah but with us just

2608
01:57:32,930 --> 01:57:31,410
a bluish tint to their skin like you

2609
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:32,940
know like blue ice you know when you get

2610
01:57:36,770 --> 01:57:34,650
that that kind of light blue in the ice

2611
01:57:38,930 --> 01:57:36,780
sometimes it's a bit like that a tin of

2612
01:57:40,850 --> 01:57:38,940
that to them and they are tall and they

2613
01:57:42,860 --> 01:57:40,860
have you know very light hair like white

2614
01:57:44,780 --> 01:57:42,870
hair usually right so this is a one

2615
01:57:45,740 --> 01:57:44,790
group of them there's others I mean

2616
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:45,750
people reports the other beings

2617
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:47,010
associated with the pleiades but this

2618
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:49,110
particular group yes and recently in

2619
01:57:56,180 --> 01:57:51,840
their image they look very human-like so

2620
01:58:00,740 --> 01:57:56,190
this this this hybrid modification to

2621
01:58:02,810 --> 01:58:00,750
our genetics you know 800,000 years ago

2622
01:58:06,740 --> 01:58:02,820
maybe prior but 800,000 years ago

2623
01:58:10,250 --> 01:58:06,750
200,000 years ago this snip snip this

2624
01:58:13,070 --> 01:58:10,260
CRISPR this DNA modification came from

2625
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:13,080
the same group from the Pleiades this

2626
01:58:17,660 --> 01:58:15,810
particular time that the events you know

2627
01:58:19,010 --> 01:58:17,670
a hundred thousand years ago yes I can't

2628
01:58:20,690 --> 01:58:19,020
see figures I believe that some of these

2629
01:58:22,430 --> 01:58:20,700
other earlier events are not done by

2630
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:22,440
them I believe that in my understanding

2631
01:58:27,890 --> 01:58:24,930
this planet has had a presence of a

2632
01:58:30,500 --> 01:58:27,900
humanoid reptilian type which is much

2633
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:30,510
older which has been here much longer

2634
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:32,010
and that this is a kind of an

2635
01:58:35,950 --> 01:58:33,810
intervention so this isn't always the

2636
01:58:37,810 --> 01:58:35,960
same group that's doing this stuff

2637
01:58:39,820 --> 01:58:37,820
this isn't more of an upgrade and some

2638
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:39,830
of the other stuff has been not so much

2639
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:41,810
of upgrades just kind of playing games

2640
01:58:45,070 --> 01:58:43,730
with genetics and that's why I think

2641
01:58:46,750 --> 01:58:45,080
eight hundred thousand years ago is the

2642
01:58:48,990 --> 01:58:46,760
kind of intriguing one exists the first

2643
01:58:50,860 --> 01:58:49,000
time we really see what appears to be

2644
01:58:53,110 --> 01:58:50,870
modifications that will be beneficial

2645
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:53,120
like you know truly beneficial to us

2646
01:58:56,830 --> 01:58:55,130
mostly giving of this complex brain that

2647
01:58:57,820 --> 01:58:56,840
allows our freedom of for you know

2648
01:59:00,130 --> 01:58:57,830
certainly we're able to produce all

2649
01:59:01,419 --> 01:59:00,140
these unique tools and you know boats

2650
01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:01,429
and everything you know it's really

2651
01:59:05,439 --> 01:59:03,110
different to what's come before whereas

2652
01:59:06,939 --> 01:59:05,449
the seeds of units are playing with DNA

2653
01:59:10,090 --> 01:59:06,949
in creating all sorts of life forms and

2654
01:59:11,620 --> 01:59:10,100
stuff you know there's not that same

2655
01:59:14,229 --> 01:59:11,630
impetus I mean this is the drug as an

2656
01:59:17,110 --> 01:59:14,239
event where they are definitely trying

2657
01:59:19,450 --> 01:59:17,120
to engineer species that is no highly

2658
01:59:22,450 --> 01:59:19,460
intelligent and is able to operate on

2659
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:22,460
its own freewill and so that their

2660
01:59:25,810 --> 01:59:24,050
reasons for doing it their motivations

2661
01:59:29,470 --> 01:59:25,820
their intentions you know quite

2662
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:29,480
different and this is clarified so I

2663
01:59:32,530 --> 01:59:30,770
think it's different in those terms

2664
01:59:35,140 --> 01:59:32,540
I do feel Esprit modification at various

2665
01:59:36,850 --> 01:59:35,150
other times but this is one that you can

2666
01:59:40,780 --> 01:59:36,860
sort point to and say well look you know

2667
01:59:42,010 --> 01:59:40,790
this is not entirely an upgrade you know

2668
01:59:44,110 --> 01:59:42,020
it comes with some genetic you know

2669
01:59:46,209 --> 01:59:44,120
problems it's quite honestly but overall

2670
01:59:47,140 --> 01:59:46,219
you know it's given us the the things

2671
01:59:48,970 --> 01:59:47,150
that we've been with you know our

2672
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:48,980
poseable cousins and that big brain and

2673
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:51,050
our immune systems and a lot of stuff

2674
01:59:54,669 --> 01:59:52,730
that has come from events then we see in

2675
01:59:58,060 --> 01:59:54,679
the genome around that time so this is a

2676
01:59:59,560 --> 01:59:58,070
particularly important event and it does

2677
02:00:03,070 --> 01:59:59,570
look like yeah the what we'd say through

2678
02:00:05,140 --> 02:00:03,080
a Chris biotype gene drive type changes

2679
02:00:06,220 --> 02:00:05,150
I don't think this was raining down you

2680
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:06,230
know from Einstein he wasn't written

2681
02:00:09,850 --> 02:00:07,730
advisors it was a presence you know this

2682
02:00:12,820 --> 02:00:09,860
way is landing there's modification done

2683
02:00:14,770 --> 02:00:12,830
on a field of hominins this is not you

2684
02:00:16,450 --> 02:00:14,780
know panspermia viruses and the

2685
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:16,460
atmosphere is literally doing it on the

2686
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:18,530
ground one of the things injury do you

2687
02:00:23,229 --> 02:00:20,090
familiar with gene drives have you seen

2688
02:00:25,630 --> 02:00:23,239
the come up in the news recently yes and

2689
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:25,640
Rives yeah and we're gonna will discuss

2690
02:00:29,500 --> 02:00:27,170
that right after the break we got to get

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02:00:31,689 --> 02:00:29,510
this in our guest and I Bruce our Fenton

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02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:31,699
talking about his new book that was just

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released it was co-authored with his

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wife Daniella EXO Genesis human hybrids

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a scientific history of

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extraterrestrial genetic manipulation

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more with Bruce when we come back stay

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2789
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good thing you have the are in there

2790
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:15,310
Bruce because there's a lot of Bruce

2791
02:05:20,250 --> 02:05:18,160
fentons out there running around and you

2792
02:05:22,730 --> 02:05:20,260
just want to make sure that people are

2793
02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:22,740
going in and checking out the right one

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02:05:30,210 --> 02:05:27,870
reminds me of like Yngwie J Malmsteen

2795
02:05:32,010 --> 02:05:30,220
okay that's an inside joke you didn't

2796
02:05:38,670 --> 02:05:32,020
get it you didn't get it you're not an

2797
02:05:42,690 --> 02:05:38,680
ink bay fan no he's a guitar player man

2798
02:05:45,390 --> 02:05:42,700
don't and don't worry about the other

2799
02:05:47,190 --> 02:05:45,400
Bruce Benson is the one on that people

2800
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:47,200
might see on Twitter particularly is a

2801
02:05:50,670 --> 02:05:49,360
equipped to expert actually and I do

2802
02:05:52,950 --> 02:05:50,680
communicate with Bruce

2803
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:52,960
so the Bruce's do know each other but

2804
02:05:58,110 --> 02:05:56,170
yet he has the main Bruce Fenton kind of

2805
02:06:00,300 --> 02:05:58,120
website a lot Bruce offense and social

2806
02:06:02,910 --> 02:06:00,310
yes so I'm Bruce are fentons it does

2807
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:02,920
differentiate us but we actually do talk

2808
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:06,730
so there you go now back to where we

2809
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:10,450
were you know talking about this this

2810
02:06:17,070 --> 02:06:14,050
CRISPR technology or CRISPR like right

2811
02:06:19,710 --> 02:06:17,080
there's some snipping going on and I

2812
02:06:23,970 --> 02:06:19,720
think that the evidence is very very

2813
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:23,980
clear of the the progress and the

2814
02:06:30,690 --> 02:06:27,490
radical appearance of us two hundred

2815
02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:30,700
thousand years ago but I wanted to get

2816
02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:34,660
your opinion on why wasn't cro-magnon

2817
02:06:40,130 --> 02:06:35,440
messed with

2818
02:06:42,270 --> 02:06:40,140
and why aren't they here with us today

2819
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:42,280
well I would say that you know they all

2820
02:06:46,590 --> 02:06:44,800
come from that same messing with because

2821
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:46,600
really if you trace back all of the

2822
02:06:49,740 --> 02:06:48,370
large green hominis they all go back to

2823
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:49,750
that event seven hundred eighty thousand

2824
02:06:53,130 --> 02:06:51,130
years ago that's when we see them start

2825
02:06:55,620 --> 02:06:53,140
to split in the fossil record right so

2826
02:06:55,950 --> 02:06:55,630
and in the genetics so they all have

2827
02:06:57,300 --> 02:06:55,960
that

2828
02:06:59,850 --> 02:06:57,310
signature they all have the chromosome

2829
02:07:02,340 --> 02:06:59,860
two fusion they have the modifications

2830
02:07:04,110 --> 02:07:02,350
they gave them their big brains but but

2831
02:07:06,300 --> 02:07:04,120
yeah we have differences but they

2832
02:07:07,530 --> 02:07:06,310
certainly they also they came out of the

2833
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:07,540
experiment put it that way you know it's

2834
02:07:11,310 --> 02:07:09,730
like if you do an experiment and maybe

2835
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:11,320
you're not gonna get the same results

2836
02:07:14,250 --> 02:07:12,850
you know all the time well you maybe

2837
02:07:16,410 --> 02:07:14,260
don't even want to maybe you want to try

2838
02:07:18,810 --> 02:07:16,420
a few different types right see who does

2839
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:18,820
best which makes a lot of sense you know

2840
02:07:22,350 --> 02:07:21,010
so we do have a few different kinds come

2841
02:07:24,510 --> 02:07:22,360
out of there now

2842
02:07:26,490 --> 02:07:24,520
we always talk about the evidence right

2843
02:07:30,620 --> 02:07:26,500
okay where's the evidence where's the

2844
02:07:33,690 --> 02:07:30,630
evidence and you and I want you to

2845
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:33,700
discuss this in depth because it's uh

2846
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:37,810
it's it's astonishing if this is

2847
02:07:43,650 --> 02:07:39,730
accurate I'm talking about a debris

2848
02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:43,660
field that you know one from the north

2849
02:07:48,330 --> 02:07:45,550
to the South Pole just about didn't it

2850
02:07:50,670 --> 02:07:48,340
yeah yeah he's enormous I mean he's and

2851
02:07:52,170 --> 02:07:50,680
the thing is you know keep people this

2852
02:07:53,670 --> 02:07:52,180
you know a quick overview and then I

2853
02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:53,680
want them to keep in mind as well hear

2854
02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:55,510
that you know NASA has studied this you

2855
02:07:58,650 --> 02:07:57,040
know kind of universities have studied

2856
02:08:00,209 --> 02:07:58,660
this and not one of them has come up

2857
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:00,219
with this question of what the hell is

2858
02:08:04,700 --> 02:08:02,170
going on here because this is a big

2859
02:08:07,860 --> 02:08:04,710
mystery what we have is you know this

2860
02:08:10,350 --> 02:08:07,870
melted sort of quartz crystal type

2861
02:08:12,780 --> 02:08:10,360
material with other elements in it it's

2862
02:08:14,820 --> 02:08:12,790
got titanium and iron and stuff a little

2863
02:08:16,860 --> 02:08:14,830
bit of this aluminium as well temps and

2864
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:16,870
aluminium but it's basically 75 to 80

2865
02:08:22,140 --> 02:08:19,450
percent silica from melted quartz with

2866
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,150
other metals mixed in right now and it's

2867
02:08:26,490 --> 02:08:24,400
scattered all the way up he's enormous

2868
02:08:27,630 --> 02:08:26,500
debris field I say starting Antarctica

2869
02:08:29,550 --> 02:08:27,640
goes all the way up to southern China

2870
02:08:31,410 --> 02:08:29,560
and out into the oceans you know and

2871
02:08:33,150 --> 02:08:31,420
either side covering around at 20

2872
02:08:36,420 --> 02:08:33,160
percent of the planet's surface I mean

2873
02:08:38,220 --> 02:08:36,430
this is there's nothing like it ever on

2874
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:38,230
the history this planet in terms of a

2875
02:08:41,459 --> 02:08:39,910
debris field you know whether from an

2876
02:08:43,290 --> 02:08:41,469
impacts or from anything but there's

2877
02:08:46,410 --> 02:08:43,300
nothing on that scale it's totally

2878
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:46,420
unique and within that debris field you

2879
02:08:51,870 --> 02:08:49,330
also have a totally unique form of

2880
02:08:53,490 --> 02:08:51,880
debris for these but but and tektites

2881
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:53,500
they look like a kind of button or look

2882
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:55,450
like a nose cone off of the rocket ship

2883
02:08:58,020 --> 02:08:57,130
and the reason they look like that is

2884
02:09:00,660 --> 02:08:58,030
because they're shaped by the

2885
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:00,670
aerodynamic forces of coming into the

2886
02:09:03,630 --> 02:09:02,290
atmosphere is why we have nose cones

2887
02:09:05,459 --> 02:09:03,640
right so why we shape things like that

2888
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:05,469
they have to pass through those that the

2889
02:09:09,359 --> 02:09:07,930
aerodynamic forces okay so you have that

2890
02:09:11,009 --> 02:09:09,369
is unique again in the

2891
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:11,019
all history of the planet anytime you

2892
02:09:13,859 --> 02:09:12,010
get something unique in history the

2893
02:09:14,939 --> 02:09:13,869
planet it swung around uh normally right

2894
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:14,949
straight away you know you've gone uh

2895
02:09:19,709 --> 02:09:16,719
normally why isn't this happening again

2896
02:09:21,149 --> 02:09:19,719
why don't we find it anywhere else the

2897
02:09:22,889 --> 02:09:21,159
problem has been that there was a when

2898
02:09:23,759 --> 02:09:22,899
they first found these they they weren't

2899
02:09:25,229 --> 02:09:23,769
sure what happened for maybe the

2900
02:09:27,689 --> 02:09:25,239
man-made where they may by volcanic

2901
02:09:29,339 --> 02:09:27,699
action that was dismissed and they came

2902
02:09:31,739 --> 02:09:29,349
down to two possibilities either there

2903
02:09:33,689 --> 02:09:31,749
had been an impact you know there me try

2904
02:09:35,250 --> 02:09:33,699
out something huge we tried thrown this

2905
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:35,260
material out even then they're

2906
02:09:38,279 --> 02:09:36,610
struggling because the size of this

2907
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:38,289
debris field right and then the other

2908
02:09:41,129 --> 02:09:39,610
idea was that maybe it so you hit the

2909
02:09:43,469 --> 02:09:41,139
moon and the piece of the moon had

2910
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:43,479
broken off and the debris had flown here

2911
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:46,719
from the moon and it rained down and

2912
02:09:49,859 --> 02:09:48,010
there was an argument in the two camps

2913
02:09:51,389 --> 02:09:49,869
all right for decades you know because

2914
02:09:54,060 --> 02:09:51,399
the problem was on the one side you

2915
02:09:56,339 --> 02:09:54,070
could explain some of the the data you

2916
02:09:57,719 --> 02:09:56,349
know with that theory and on the other

2917
02:09:59,879 --> 02:09:57,729
side you explain some of the other but

2918
02:10:02,219 --> 02:09:59,889
neither theory could explain it all and

2919
02:10:04,379 --> 02:10:02,229
so they were locked in this this kind of

2920
02:10:07,949 --> 02:10:04,389
war for a long time now more recently

2921
02:10:09,869 --> 02:10:07,959
the the impact theory has kind of become

2922
02:10:10,739 --> 02:10:09,879
the mainstream view and the reason for

2923
02:10:12,810 --> 02:10:10,749
that was cuz when they started to

2924
02:10:14,669 --> 02:10:12,820
examine lunar rock they found that the

2925
02:10:16,879 --> 02:10:14,679
Austral light debris didn't match with

2926
02:10:19,409 --> 02:10:16,889
it so that strengthened the impact

2927
02:10:22,739 --> 02:10:19,419
hypothesis and the lunar camp kind of

2928
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,749
had to like back down but keep in mind

2929
02:10:26,129 --> 02:10:24,639
the trestle impact still I couldn't

2930
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:26,139
explain all of the anomalies it just

2931
02:10:29,279 --> 02:10:27,760
became the default because the

2932
02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:29,289
scientists didn't have anything else to

2933
02:10:32,669 --> 02:10:31,360
offer because then you have to go into

2934
02:10:34,649 --> 02:10:32,679
stuff like what I'm saying which is

2935
02:10:36,899 --> 02:10:34,659
extraordinary stuff which they never

2936
02:10:38,429 --> 02:10:36,909
will right so there was this problem so

2937
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:38,439
now they're stuck with this model which

2938
02:10:41,879 --> 02:10:40,090
doesn't really work but it's the only

2939
02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:41,889
one that they're willing to say now

2940
02:10:46,949 --> 02:10:43,800
really quickly say why doesn't it work

2941
02:10:48,330 --> 02:10:46,959
if you have an impact somewhere in

2942
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:48,340
Southeast Asia is what they calculate

2943
02:10:51,239 --> 02:10:50,110
that was going to fry all this material

2944
02:10:53,549 --> 02:10:51,249
and somehow all the way down to

2945
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:53,559
Antarctica which is extraordinary but

2946
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:55,090
you've also now got some of this shaped

2947
02:10:58,439 --> 02:10:56,530
by coming in from the upper atmosphere

2948
02:11:00,330 --> 02:10:58,449
all right so you know you're saying that

2949
02:11:02,219 --> 02:11:00,340
not only does it throw all this material

2950
02:11:03,929 --> 02:11:02,229
but some it goes up into space and it

2951
02:11:06,119 --> 02:11:03,939
comes back down now that's a huge

2952
02:11:07,889 --> 02:11:06,129
problem because I think things here they

2953
02:11:09,389 --> 02:11:07,899
don't normally throw the debris into

2954
02:11:10,979 --> 02:11:09,399
space firstly right that doesn't

2955
02:11:12,689 --> 02:11:10,989
normally happen and then also you gotta

2956
02:11:14,609 --> 02:11:12,699
cone back down just captured comes back

2957
02:11:15,959 --> 02:11:14,619
down that's a problem now you've got

2958
02:11:18,330 --> 02:11:15,969
another problem though is that the

2959
02:11:20,630 --> 02:11:18,340
material itself is we could really

2960
02:11:22,850 --> 02:11:20,640
homogeneous is totally uniform

2961
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:22,860
like the the glass you know each piece

2962
02:11:26,660 --> 02:11:24,210
is made of the sacred covenants

2963
02:11:28,580 --> 02:11:26,670
basically when we're doing impacts you

2964
02:11:30,590 --> 02:11:28,590
all sorts of rock around and you get

2965
02:11:32,930 --> 02:11:30,600
different pieces of material right fused

2966
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:32,940
between say if your granite there and

2967
02:11:35,870 --> 02:11:34,050
you've got sands don't you know you'd

2968
02:11:37,550 --> 02:11:35,880
have different pieces that are different

2969
02:11:40,070 --> 02:11:37,560
composition and some of them are half

2970
02:11:41,570 --> 02:11:40,080
melted some are fully melted you don't

2971
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:41,580
you don't have that in the Austral light

2972
02:11:44,660 --> 02:11:43,440
it's all uniform right they could

2973
02:11:46,670 --> 02:11:44,670
there's a problem they said oh there's a

2974
02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,680
lack of bubbles in it you get from

2975
02:11:50,350 --> 02:11:48,480
impacts so this looks more like we make

2976
02:11:52,940 --> 02:11:50,360
glass and you remove the bubbles from it

2977
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:52,950
and that where they have got bubbles

2978
02:11:58,730 --> 02:11:56,880
they trapped vacuum so if something

2979
02:12:00,680 --> 02:11:58,740
impacts our planet you're gonna have

2980
02:12:03,380 --> 02:12:00,690
bubbles of air trapped in it well you

2981
02:12:05,180 --> 02:12:03,390
don't have bubbles of vacuum yeah so all

2982
02:12:06,590 --> 02:12:05,190
of these things were before the NASA

2983
02:12:09,380 --> 02:12:06,600
study they said it was just obviously

2984
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:09,390
this is a space you know formation and

2985
02:12:13,340 --> 02:12:11,130
they on top of that the way these

2986
02:12:15,290 --> 02:12:13,350
buttons formed said it has to be a

2987
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:15,300
really gentle entrance into the

2988
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:16,410
atmosphere that you've got essentially

2989
02:12:21,260 --> 02:12:18,960
orbit and these are decaying orbits and

2990
02:12:23,390 --> 02:12:21,270
as they come in as shallow angle they

2991
02:12:25,700 --> 02:12:23,400
gradually melt and the liquid runs back

2992
02:12:27,500 --> 02:12:25,710
from the front it's you have a sphere it

2993
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:27,510
melts on the way and liquid runs to the

2994
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:29,040
back and he starts to form his

2995
02:12:32,180 --> 02:12:30,960
aerodynamic shapes right and they said

2996
02:12:33,830 --> 02:12:32,190
the only way you can have that is if

2997
02:12:37,010 --> 02:12:33,840
it's at this shallow angle because when

2998
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:37,020
a meteorite comes in it comes in so fast

2999
02:12:42,230 --> 02:12:40,530
you get the surface evaporates and the

3000
02:12:44,180 --> 02:12:42,240
middle is actually still fairly cool so

3001
02:12:45,710 --> 02:12:44,190
you get a solid core and the surface the

3002
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:45,720
rest are just evaporates you don't get

3003
02:12:50,030 --> 02:12:47,250
liquid you don't get running back you

3004
02:12:51,500 --> 02:12:50,040
don't get these shapes ever right so

3005
02:12:53,420 --> 02:12:51,510
therefore all these reasons the NASA

3006
02:12:56,030 --> 02:12:53,430
teams kind of concluded this has been a

3007
02:12:57,860 --> 02:12:56,040
large object that was in orbit so some

3008
02:13:00,230 --> 02:12:57,870
reason breaks up you know there's a

3009
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:00,240
super heating event that material then

3010
02:13:05,060 --> 02:13:02,730
carries on in the orbit starts to break

3011
02:13:07,460 --> 02:13:05,070
the orbit and melts on a shallow angle

3012
02:13:09,470 --> 02:13:07,470
forming these buttons and that then you

3013
02:13:11,450 --> 02:13:09,480
know you have them raining down in fact

3014
02:13:13,370 --> 02:13:11,460
they're only across southern Australia

3015
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:13,380
the buttons the rest of the material is

3016
02:13:17,300 --> 02:13:15,210
in different shapes teardrop shapes and

3017
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:17,310
dumbbell shapes now why that is because

3018
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:20,400
the larger chunks of this object they

3019
02:13:24,230 --> 02:13:22,110
break the atmosphere further to the

3020
02:13:25,460 --> 02:13:24,240
north and you get aerial bursts which is

3021
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:25,470
like almost like a nuclear bombs going

3022
02:13:29,470 --> 02:13:27,330
off these larger chunks explode in the

3023
02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:29,480
upper atmosphere and they flow down

3024
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:31,440
material that's in a different form

3025
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:33,250
because it's not coming from space you

3026
02:13:37,260 --> 02:13:35,440
teardrop shapes dumbbell shapes and

3027
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:37,270
other shapes right so these are all the

3028
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:40,690
way up to South China oh man are made

3029
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:42,880
from the same composition exactly the

3030
02:13:46,770 --> 02:13:43,930
same composition

3031
02:13:49,860 --> 02:13:46,780
just just definition just different yeah

3032
02:13:51,630 --> 02:13:49,870
because if you imagine it let's put into

3033
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:51,640
minds so let's just say you've got a

3034
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:54,370
ship or any object and it's over say

3035
02:13:58,170 --> 02:13:56,530
it's gonna be over Antarctica maybe I'll

3036
02:14:00,060 --> 02:13:58,180
cross the sea towards Australia you know

3037
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:00,070
you've got it in orbit there and it is

3038
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:02,320
destroyed there so if you imagine you're

3039
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:04,330
gonna get a big explosion so the first

3040
02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:06,250
lot stuff is material is forced down

3041
02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:08,290
really fast and in fact some this

3042
02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:09,640
material is found on the moon Jimmy

3043
02:14:11,700 --> 02:14:10,330
that's the other thing there's a

3044
02:14:13,470 --> 02:14:11,710
clincher I kept thinking what if some of

3045
02:14:15,180 --> 02:14:13,480
this had blown into space and land on

3046
02:14:16,710 --> 02:14:15,190
the moon by foot well there's no way to

3047
02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:16,720
test that because I convert to the moon

3048
02:14:20,730 --> 02:14:18,250
and we've done very little exploration

3049
02:14:22,380 --> 02:14:20,740
there it turns out that on one of the

3050
02:14:24,450 --> 02:14:22,390
lunar missions they recovered two small

3051
02:14:25,860 --> 02:14:24,460
spheres the glass climates here and when

3052
02:14:28,050 --> 02:14:25,870
they tested it it was an exact match to

3053
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:28,060
Austral light all right so you imagine

3054
02:14:30,630 --> 02:14:29,350
you've got this craft has blown up

3055
02:14:32,910 --> 02:14:30,640
you've got material thrown into space

3056
02:14:34,530 --> 02:14:32,920
material thrown down so we've got these

3057
02:14:36,450 --> 02:14:34,540
buttons that come down from space and

3058
02:14:39,450 --> 02:14:36,460
we've got spheres on the moon from the

3059
02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:39,460
same event now the larger pieces of this

3060
02:14:43,650 --> 02:14:41,320
craft they carry on in an orbit a

3061
02:14:45,210 --> 02:14:43,660
decaying orbit that he was in and those

3062
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:45,220
are the ones as they come down further

3063
02:14:49,650 --> 02:14:47,890
to the north they explode and they start

3064
02:14:51,390 --> 02:14:49,660
throwing down the material in these

3065
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:51,400
other shapes which are the normal

3066
02:14:55,620 --> 02:14:53,860
tektites shapes so it's only when it's

3067
02:14:56,670 --> 02:14:55,630
still in space then he throws it down

3068
02:14:58,590 --> 02:14:56,680
through the atmosphere you get the

3069
02:15:00,360 --> 02:14:58,600
buttons so it measures exactly the

3070
02:15:01,770 --> 02:15:00,370
imagine that the orbit you know just

3071
02:15:03,510 --> 02:15:01,780
staying orbit a large ship it's been

3072
02:15:05,250 --> 02:15:03,520
destroyed with the initial explosion

3073
02:15:06,660 --> 02:15:05,260
forcing down these pieces through the

3074
02:15:08,970 --> 02:15:06,670
atmosphere and then the other chunks

3075
02:15:11,220 --> 02:15:08,980
break the atmosphere to the north as the

3076
02:15:13,710 --> 02:15:11,230
orbit decays these pieces come down and

3077
02:15:15,690 --> 02:15:13,720
they end in Laos and South China is the

3078
02:15:17,220 --> 02:15:15,700
end of the debris field and if you look

3079
02:15:19,140 --> 02:15:17,230
on a map and people go look at the Osmo

3080
02:15:21,330 --> 02:15:19,150
tektite field map you can see there's

3081
02:15:23,130 --> 02:15:21,340
this this orbital path goes down across

3082
02:15:25,620 --> 02:15:23,140
Antarctica down to southern China

3083
02:15:28,260 --> 02:15:25,630
exactly meshing what you would expect in

3084
02:15:30,330 --> 02:15:28,270
that scenario there's just no way with

3085
02:15:33,180 --> 02:15:30,340
the conventional impact futures playing

3086
02:15:36,270 --> 02:15:33,190
that no what about that what about the

3087
02:15:39,180 --> 02:15:36,280
dating of this explosion yeah it's a to

3088
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:39,190
780 thousand years ago and and where

3089
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:41,470
does this dating come from that's from

3090
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:43,090
the geology is multiple different

3091
02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:46,030
universities now so every hundred

3092
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:48,280
hundreds of maybe thousands as hundreds

3093
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:49,810
of papers on the Austral a tektite study

3094
02:15:53,010 --> 02:15:51,730
because it's been such a mystery you

3095
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:53,020
know it's an unsolved mystery you'll

3096
02:15:56,430 --> 02:15:54,250
find there's papers that are titled the

3097
02:15:58,590 --> 02:15:56,440
enduring Austria like tektite mystery

3098
02:16:00,480 --> 02:15:58,600
because they cannot rectify all of the

3099
02:16:02,190 --> 02:16:00,490
anomalies all right still to this day

3100
02:16:04,110 --> 02:16:02,200
it's an ongoing mystery because they

3101
02:16:05,250 --> 02:16:04,120
just cannot rectify every time they try

3102
02:16:06,300 --> 02:16:05,260
and solve it they cannot one of these

3103
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:06,310
problems like well how would it have

3104
02:16:10,020 --> 02:16:08,110
these vacuum bubbles in it you know how

3105
02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:10,030
it is shaped like that so that's why

3106
02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:11,380
it's remained an open mystery I was

3107
02:16:15,300 --> 02:16:13,000
stunned you know when I went looking for

3108
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:15,310
evidence of a destroyed silica Shipley's

3109
02:16:20,190 --> 02:16:17,530
described as a silica ship in the

3110
02:16:22,410 --> 02:16:20,200
information I had so I'm looking for

3111
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:22,420
some kind of molten silicon debris right

3112
02:16:25,860 --> 02:16:23,920
thinking like there's no way I'm going

3113
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:25,870
to find this you know even if it existed

3114
02:16:29,790 --> 02:16:28,570
too long ago so imagine my shock when it

3115
02:16:31,590 --> 02:16:29,800
turns out there's a hundred-year long

3116
02:16:33,209 --> 02:16:31,600
history and science about this silica

3117
02:16:35,009 --> 02:16:33,219
debris that's rained down across half

3118
02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:35,019
the planet right you know I was

3119
02:16:44,250 --> 02:16:39,120
mind-boggled and I have some of it and

3120
02:16:46,500 --> 02:16:44,260
it's it's very unique it's very unique I

3121
02:16:51,150 --> 02:16:46,510
don't even know how to describe it the

3122
02:16:53,700 --> 02:16:51,160
shape you know it's rounded it's flat

3123
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:53,710
it's like a little uh like a pebble

3124
02:16:59,850 --> 02:16:57,010
almost and these if you cut it into

3125
02:17:02,070 --> 02:16:59,860
slices it's actually translucent so they

3126
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:02,080
looks black it's black it's like dark

3127
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:05,050
brown yeah yeah black dark brown but

3128
02:17:10,379 --> 02:17:07,450
it's very yeah when you cut it it's very

3129
02:17:12,270 --> 02:17:10,389
dense mm-hmm it's very dense it's very

3130
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:12,280
heavy for its size you would not think

3131
02:17:16,770 --> 02:17:14,559
that it has that kind of weight to it

3132
02:17:19,049 --> 02:17:16,780
but it does there's nothing like I mean

3133
02:17:21,480 --> 02:17:19,059
really like the chemical composition

3134
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:21,490
they said doesn't mesh with earth they

3135
02:17:25,080 --> 02:17:22,960
said if we put he from a planet that was

3136
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:25,090
similar or you know a planet similar in

3137
02:17:27,780 --> 02:17:26,650
composition to earth but it's different

3138
02:17:30,959 --> 02:17:27,790
enough and it's also cuz it's got zero

3139
02:17:32,850 --> 02:17:30,969
water content and no rock on our planet

3140
02:17:35,250 --> 02:17:32,860
has zero water content so it's zero

3141
02:17:36,810 --> 02:17:35,260
water in it he said this again meshes

3142
02:17:38,339 --> 02:17:36,820
were they're having an outerspace origin

3143
02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:38,349
the forty four years right with all this

3144
02:17:41,850 --> 02:17:40,510
mystery the Aboriginal people you ask

3145
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:41,860
them what do they think about and you

3146
02:17:45,209 --> 02:17:43,570
look back in the records they told the

3147
02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:45,219
Europeans that this stuff had fallen the

3148
02:17:48,570 --> 02:17:46,840
space was extraterrestrial and it rained

3149
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:48,580
down across the continent how did they

3150
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:50,170
know that to me because considering this

3151
02:17:52,799 --> 02:17:51,370
happened seven hundred eighty thousand

3152
02:17:54,540 --> 02:17:52,809
years ago it looks like someone's been

3153
02:17:56,580 --> 02:17:54,550
keeping them in the loop because they

3154
02:17:58,420 --> 02:17:56,590
actually told the Western scientists no

3155
02:18:00,460 --> 02:17:58,430
no it rain down from space

3156
02:18:01,960 --> 02:18:00,470
right so they knew that and they say

3157
02:18:04,291 --> 02:18:01,970
it's got magical powers and this an

3158
02:18:07,871 --> 02:18:04,301
extra trash drawer and it's and it was

3159
02:18:08,951 --> 02:18:07,881
rained down because of the Iceman nickel

3160
02:18:10,480 --> 02:18:08,961
the Iceman I think about what I said

3161
02:18:13,201 --> 02:18:10,490
earlier about these ice blue colored

3162
02:18:15,670 --> 02:18:13,211
people right they had said the Iceman

3163
02:18:18,190 --> 02:18:15,680
rained this stuff down in an attempt

3164
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:18,200
then to kill this other group called the

3165
02:18:21,880 --> 02:18:19,850
ringtail possum people ideas but

3166
02:18:23,470 --> 02:18:21,890
essentially the narrative is the saying

3167
02:18:26,050 --> 02:18:23,480
that there is this event there's two

3168
02:18:27,791 --> 02:18:26,060
different sides which I cover you've got

3169
02:18:29,651 --> 02:18:27,801
a group on the ground there's a conflict

3170
02:18:31,060 --> 02:18:29,661
between them and this material rains

3171
02:18:32,470 --> 02:18:31,070
down and resolve the struts on the ship

3172
02:18:34,810 --> 02:18:32,480
but they have original people have that

3173
02:18:36,401 --> 02:18:34,820
in their in their own understandings

3174
02:18:38,890 --> 02:18:36,411
they also consider to be highly sacred

3175
02:18:41,170 --> 02:18:38,900
material associated with shamanic powers

3176
02:18:43,241 --> 02:18:41,180
and healing and all sorts of stuff so it

3177
02:18:45,250 --> 02:18:43,251
has a context in their society as well

3178
02:18:50,170 --> 02:18:45,260
as being very special material they know

3179
02:18:54,701 --> 02:18:50,180
it's very special now so to condense

3180
02:18:58,510 --> 02:18:54,711
this back into a narrative from we are

3181
02:19:02,201 --> 02:18:58,520
talking about a civilization arriving

3182
02:19:08,500 --> 02:19:02,211
here from the pillow Hades arrives here

3183
02:19:12,130 --> 02:19:08,510
this ship collides explodes it's blown

3184
02:19:14,321 --> 02:19:12,140
up okay and and that was seven hundred

3185
02:19:19,140 --> 02:19:14,331
and eighty thousand years ago and then

3186
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:19,150
at the same time we have this tablet

3187
02:19:28,810 --> 02:19:23,530
speaking to a woman right which is

3188
02:19:31,741 --> 02:19:28,820
giving her the history of man she's

3189
02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:31,751
writing it down does the tablet

3190
02:19:41,050 --> 02:19:37,760
communicator timeline match with the

3191
02:19:45,161 --> 02:19:41,060
seven hundred and eighty thousand year

3192
02:19:46,750 --> 02:19:45,171
old story as well what she was given was

3193
02:19:48,791 --> 02:19:46,760
that it was something in the range of

3194
02:19:49,751 --> 02:19:48,801
about what she's reading her book is so

3195
02:19:52,361 --> 02:19:49,761
in the range of about nine hundred

3196
02:19:54,161 --> 02:19:52,371
thousand years see no mention elsewhere

3197
02:19:56,020 --> 02:19:54,171
you know that you know how you look at

3198
02:19:58,480 --> 02:19:56,030
it in terms of their time or somewhere

3199
02:20:00,041 --> 02:19:58,490
like that possibly around 700 so I've

3200
02:20:02,501 --> 02:20:00,051
seen two ventes no but right in the

3201
02:20:04,661 --> 02:20:02,511
middle of that is this 780 right right

3202
02:20:06,911 --> 02:20:04,671
so see I'd took it on the view of that

3203
02:20:08,321 --> 02:20:06,921
well I know that when people get

3204
02:20:10,361 --> 02:20:08,331
information from higher sources

3205
02:20:11,711 --> 02:20:10,371
sometimes the dates are a bit out so the

3206
02:20:12,139 --> 02:20:11,721
way I looked at it was and they look

3207
02:20:14,779 --> 02:20:12,149
between

3208
02:20:17,389 --> 02:20:14,789
700 and 900 and see if any of this

3209
02:20:19,939 --> 02:20:17,399
evidence is there and it turned out all

3210
02:20:21,019 --> 02:20:19,949
of its there but only on 780 thousand

3211
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:21,029
like you know I mean you can't cherry

3212
02:20:25,699 --> 02:20:23,850
pick and say ones from 700 you know in

3213
02:20:26,899 --> 02:20:25,709
other vents from 800 another some 900

3214
02:20:30,409 --> 02:20:26,909
you know because then you'll be just

3215
02:20:32,569 --> 02:20:30,419
gobbling it together right so I was

3216
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:32,579
quite clear they had to actually Nash in

3217
02:20:37,309 --> 02:20:35,010
time as well as with the events and it

3218
02:20:40,460 --> 02:20:37,319
turns out that you have the material at

3219
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,470
780 thousand you have the beginnings of

3220
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:42,479
Homo sapiens in the genome that you're

3221
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:44,880
not you know the genomic anomalies and

3222
02:20:49,639 --> 02:20:47,130
the chromosome 2 fusion all of that that

3223
02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:49,649
dates back to 780 this split between us

3224
02:20:53,449 --> 02:20:50,970
and yet no Neanderthals and Denisovans

3225
02:20:55,159 --> 02:20:53,459
that dates back to 780 so you've got the

3226
02:20:56,809 --> 02:20:55,169
genetic engineering at the same point

3227
02:20:58,399 --> 02:20:56,819
which is key to this you know that there

3228
02:21:00,050 --> 02:20:58,409
can't be totally different times

3229
02:21:01,699 --> 02:21:00,060
otherwise it won't make sense and then

3230
02:21:03,909 --> 02:21:01,709
the third one was that it also talks

3231
02:21:06,199 --> 02:21:03,919
about an alien engineered

3232
02:21:08,569 --> 02:21:06,209
multi-directional impact on our planet

3233
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:08,579
of asteroids that pulled in and it

3234
02:21:12,290 --> 02:21:09,930
pummeled the planet to pummel these

3235
02:21:15,050 --> 02:21:12,300
underground bases of this other extra

3236
02:21:18,409 --> 02:21:15,060
treasure collective and that also has

3237
02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:18,419
turned out to be real that 2016 a team

3238
02:21:22,099 --> 02:21:20,399
of geologists from German University

3239
02:21:24,500 --> 02:21:22,109
discovered evidence of a

3240
02:21:26,449 --> 02:21:24,510
multi-directional bombardment that here

3241
02:21:28,460 --> 02:21:26,459
in Central America and parts of Asia

3242
02:21:30,559 --> 02:21:28,470
down in Tasmania and that they have

3243
02:21:32,750 --> 02:21:30,569
found multiple impact sites and the

3244
02:21:34,130 --> 02:21:32,760
thing was they they found that they were

3245
02:21:36,349 --> 02:21:34,140
different you know the the composition

3246
02:21:38,029 --> 02:21:36,359
of the asteroid impacts was different so

3247
02:21:40,069 --> 02:21:38,039
it wasn't like one object breaking up

3248
02:21:41,960 --> 02:21:40,079
right which might be more reasonable

3249
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:41,970
instead it's totally different objects

3250
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:43,050
will bombarding the planet from

3251
02:21:46,399 --> 02:21:44,640
different sides while at the same time

3252
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:46,409
now the other thing you've got there is

3253
02:21:50,719 --> 02:21:48,720
the last magnetic pole reversal I mean

3254
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:50,729
so it starts us going like wacky because

3255
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:51,930
it's seven or eight thousand years ago

3256
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:53,930
we got the last magnetic polar reversal

3257
02:21:57,739 --> 02:21:56,130
you also have an impact of an object the

3258
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:57,749
same size as the one that wiped out the

3259
02:22:02,449 --> 02:22:00,479
dinosaurs that here in Antarctica it

3260
02:22:04,729 --> 02:22:02,459
turns out that one left a hole in the

3261
02:22:06,529 --> 02:22:04,739
ice 200 kilometers by 200 kilometers

3262
02:22:07,819 --> 02:22:06,539
they estimate the guys tomato that is

3263
02:22:10,340 --> 02:22:07,829
about the same size as the one that

3264
02:22:11,449 --> 02:22:10,350
wiped out the dinosaurs but it didn't

3265
02:22:14,059 --> 02:22:11,459
have as much of an impact because he hit

3266
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:14,069
the ice and that was the saving thing so

3267
02:22:18,739 --> 02:22:15,749
one of these objects was enormous like

3268
02:22:21,710 --> 02:22:18,749
miles across so this was a whole range

3269
02:22:23,420 --> 02:22:21,720
of like cataclysmic and then on top of

3270
02:22:24,450 --> 02:22:23,430
this alien engineering and you know all

3271
02:22:26,580 --> 02:22:24,460
the rest of it

3272
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:26,590
it was an extraordinary time and the

3273
02:22:30,210 --> 02:22:28,110
Manthan is that we are not really

3274
02:22:31,620 --> 02:22:30,220
talking about it part of me you know

3275
02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:31,630
this is not something that we learn at

3276
02:22:36,090 --> 02:22:33,370
school it's not something that's been

3277
02:22:38,700 --> 02:22:36,100
you know in any national Geographics or

3278
02:22:40,350 --> 02:22:38,710
you know 780 thousand years goes like

3279
02:22:42,300 --> 02:22:40,360
the craziest time you know huge

3280
02:22:44,130 --> 02:22:42,310
reversals the magnetic field massive

3281
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:44,140
impacts an object breaking up in the sky

3282
02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:46,450
the beginning is our species and yet

3283
02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:47,890
nobody really talks about that period

3284
02:22:55,170 --> 02:22:50,050
what the hell's going on there what

3285
02:22:59,420 --> 02:22:55,180
happened to the original and just so I'm

3286
02:23:03,540 --> 02:22:59,430
understanding this the original 50,000

3287
02:23:05,600 --> 02:23:03,550
Pleiades lady and that arrived here

3288
02:23:08,490 --> 02:23:05,610
where did they go

3289
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:08,500
most of them are killed in the in this

3290
02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:10,210
ambush essentially an ambush there's a

3291
02:23:13,950 --> 02:23:12,430
destruction of the cross the in orbit by

3292
02:23:16,350 --> 02:23:13,960
this other group that's under already

3293
02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:16,360
here is on the ground and bases there's

3294
02:23:20,520 --> 02:23:18,430
a betrayal this is spoken a negotiated

3295
02:23:22,530 --> 02:23:20,530
arrival a transfer of control of the

3296
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:22,540
planet between two different collectives

3297
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:24,550
there's kind of Lydian alliance and

3298
02:23:29,130 --> 02:23:27,340
another group which are most part of

3299
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,140
their reptilian type which was he comes

3300
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:31,120
up a lot in ancient law that they're

3301
02:23:33,810 --> 02:23:32,650
already here they're the kind of masters

3302
02:23:35,880 --> 02:23:33,820
of the planet at the time but they're

3303
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:35,890
supposed to be an organized handover of

3304
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:38,410
this planet back to the original Cedars

3305
02:23:41,850 --> 02:23:39,760
of this world which are this other

3306
02:23:43,950 --> 02:23:41,860
Lydian collective there's an ambush

3307
02:23:46,290 --> 02:23:43,960
destroy the ship a few smaller craft

3308
02:23:47,730 --> 02:23:46,300
come down and they're the ones who do

3309
02:23:49,380 --> 02:23:47,740
this work they can't survive here I mean

3310
02:23:51,390 --> 02:23:49,390
if you think alike and there's logic to

3311
02:23:52,980 --> 02:23:51,400
this they use genetic engineering

3312
02:23:55,050 --> 02:23:52,990
technologies on themselves so when they

3313
02:23:56,490 --> 02:23:55,060
colonize a planet they modifying

3314
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:56,500
themselves to feel to live there I think

3315
02:23:59,130 --> 02:23:57,610
I think this is what we're going to do

3316
02:24:00,090 --> 02:23:59,140
when issues go forward right and they've

3317
02:24:01,530 --> 02:24:00,100
got they're talking about now you might

3318
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:01,540
have seen this for the Mars colony thing

3319
02:24:04,890 --> 02:24:03,010
they're talking about modifying us to be

3320
02:24:06,900 --> 02:24:04,900
able to live there right so this is not

3321
02:24:08,340 --> 02:24:06,910
this is not a new idea this has been

3322
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:08,350
done before they they were going to do

3323
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:09,760
that themselves because their mothership

3324
02:24:13,380 --> 02:24:11,680
is destroyed they have not completed the

3325
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:13,390
process of modifying themselves and they

3326
02:24:16,380 --> 02:24:15,190
cannot live here long-term there's

3327
02:24:18,330 --> 02:24:16,390
something like dying office describes

3328
02:24:19,860 --> 02:24:18,340
that the disease is in the air there's

3329
02:24:20,969 --> 02:24:19,870
bacteria in the water things they can't

3330
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:20,979
handle that some of them leading the

3331
02:24:24,990 --> 02:24:22,810
radiation of the Sun is too strong it's

3332
02:24:25,950 --> 02:24:25,000
burning their skin so they can't live

3333
02:24:28,140 --> 02:24:25,960
here so this is when they made the

3334
02:24:29,550 --> 02:24:28,150
decision that they're gonna modify a

3335
02:24:31,290 --> 02:24:29,560
hominin here and he's going to sort

3336
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:31,300
continue their process of the

3337
02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:32,800
colonization planet in an abstract way

3338
02:24:36,719 --> 02:24:34,630
where they make us in their image and

3339
02:24:37,059 --> 02:24:36,729
they also made this clear this is kind

3340
02:24:38,469 --> 02:24:37,069
of a good

3341
02:24:40,869 --> 02:24:38,479
it's Erica for a lot of people but they

3342
02:24:44,859 --> 02:24:40,879
also clarify that they intend to

3343
02:24:46,420 --> 02:24:44,869
deliberately consciously incarnate into

3344
02:24:48,219 --> 02:24:46,430
these new humans that there's a

3345
02:24:50,380 --> 02:24:48,229
reincarnation or element in this story

3346
02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:50,390
and that's where it ties back in with

3347
02:24:55,029 --> 02:24:53,359
Locke is in the the group consciousness

3348
02:24:56,979 --> 02:24:55,039
in the modern times with Valerie Barrow

3349
02:24:59,109 --> 02:24:56,989
and the people she met is they remember

3350
02:25:00,609 --> 02:24:59,119
being extraterrestrials they remember

3351
02:25:03,159 --> 02:25:00,619
being them so they will have memories of

3352
02:25:04,719 --> 02:25:03,169
being them so there's in that context

3353
02:25:05,649 --> 02:25:04,729
they're still here and he says actually

3354
02:25:07,779 --> 02:25:05,659
the other thing that all of them the

3355
02:25:10,119 --> 02:25:07,789
50,000 enter into the reincarnation or

3356
02:25:12,040 --> 02:25:10,129
cycle of Earth and that all 50,000 of

3357
02:25:13,809 --> 02:25:12,050
them are here in T for human forms

3358
02:25:15,579 --> 02:25:13,819
people love them unaware that they've

3359
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:15,589
ever been an extraterrestrial but they

3360
02:25:19,779 --> 02:25:17,930
are here now that's as crazy as you like

3361
02:25:20,889 --> 02:25:19,789
I'm sure but let's be honest I think

3362
02:25:22,269 --> 02:25:20,899
you've talked enough people look about

3363
02:25:24,399 --> 02:25:22,279
there's talk to people who have those

3364
02:25:25,960 --> 02:25:24,409
memories of being with star seeds or

3365
02:25:28,239 --> 02:25:25,970
sure whatever we want to call it right

3366
02:25:30,279 --> 02:25:28,249
that's not exactly a rare thing there's

3367
02:25:32,380 --> 02:25:30,289
a lot people that say they remember so

3368
02:25:36,609 --> 02:25:32,390
those people are out there and they're

3369
02:25:40,109 --> 02:25:36,619
generally out there I'm looking at the

3370
02:25:42,909 --> 02:25:40,119
clock I'm wondering okay you know what

3371
02:25:45,130 --> 02:25:42,919
we're gonna have to go into overtime so

3372
02:25:46,479 --> 02:25:45,140
just plan on that because we've got to

3373
02:25:49,359 --> 02:25:46,489
take a break here in a couple of minutes

3374
02:25:53,290 --> 02:25:49,369
okay you're okay with that right do you

3375
02:25:57,279 --> 02:25:53,300
have a choice do you do you have a

3376
02:26:01,989 --> 02:25:57,289
choice is is this this has nothing to do

3377
02:26:07,739 --> 02:26:01,999
with Nibiru and the Anunnaki we're

3378
02:26:11,229 --> 02:26:07,749
talking about two separate stories here

3379
02:26:12,670 --> 02:26:11,239
well yes and no I mean I can I can say

3380
02:26:14,290 --> 02:26:12,680
yes and no so that I think that an

3381
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:14,300
aberrant story that we have in terms the

3382
02:26:18,609 --> 02:26:16,850
Anunnaki I think is a parallel of this I

3383
02:26:20,590 --> 02:26:18,619
think that layer on we have echoes of

3384
02:26:23,199 --> 02:26:20,600
this story in other cultures but they're

3385
02:26:25,719 --> 02:26:23,209
a bit like Chinese whispers right so

3386
02:26:28,210 --> 02:26:25,729
over the time that stories become being

3387
02:26:29,619 --> 02:26:28,220
warped but the Anunnaki just means you

3388
02:26:30,670 --> 02:26:29,629
know those who from the sky came and I

3389
02:26:32,889 --> 02:26:30,680
think that what you find if you look

3390
02:26:35,529 --> 02:26:32,899
closer at the Sumerian story that they

3391
02:26:37,269 --> 02:26:35,539
also dealing with both a human-like type

3392
02:26:39,969 --> 02:26:37,279
and a reptilian type in fact you see

3393
02:26:41,469 --> 02:26:39,979
that in their artwork right so there's

3394
02:26:43,119 --> 02:26:41,479
two different groups and they send the

3395
02:26:44,889 --> 02:26:43,129
two brothers Enki and Enlil that have

3396
02:26:46,659 --> 02:26:44,899
different intentions for humans I mean

3397
02:26:49,029 --> 02:26:46,669
that is an echoing story you find that

3398
02:26:50,620 --> 02:26:49,039
you know some of the extra biblical text

3399
02:26:52,929 --> 02:26:50,630
as well but there's these two groups of

3400
02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:52,939
watch's reptilian and humanoid right he

3401
02:26:58,300 --> 02:26:55,130
comes again and again well and we also

3402
02:27:01,540 --> 02:26:58,310
have a conflict we have war I have an

3403
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:01,550
explosion we have different reasons for

3404
02:27:08,590 --> 02:27:05,120
being here on this planet we definitely

3405
02:27:11,410 --> 02:27:08,600
have a lot of similar situations here

3406
02:27:14,170 --> 02:27:11,420
but it's also four hundred thousand

3407
02:27:15,880 --> 02:27:14,180
years apart yeah I mean the dates on it

3408
02:27:17,980 --> 02:27:15,890
with decisions work and one of the

3409
02:27:19,330 --> 02:27:17,990
things that he didn't have and again you

3410
02:27:20,950 --> 02:27:19,340
know this is a big issues that he didn't

3411
02:27:22,780 --> 02:27:20,960
have me a genetic argument or I didn't

3412
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:22,790
provide genetic ever done this okay and

3413
02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:24,170
like I don't see this marriage did not

3414
02:27:27,969 --> 02:27:26,330
need genetic evidence so I mean when you

3415
02:27:29,530 --> 02:27:27,979
when you get to where we right now we're

3416
02:27:31,719 --> 02:27:29,540
in the first period where you can

3417
02:27:34,179 --> 02:27:31,729
actually look in the genome saying when

3418
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:34,189
exactly did this stuff happen okay you

3419
02:27:38,080 --> 02:27:35,930
know before that nobody could do that I

3420
02:27:39,940 --> 02:27:38,090
mean it's like Lloyd Pye you know he

3421
02:27:41,620 --> 02:27:39,950
talked about the Crimson to stuff but

3422
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:41,630
even then you know importantly he passed

3423
02:27:44,679 --> 02:27:43,370
away before we got to the real genetic

3424
02:27:46,690 --> 02:27:44,689
you know revolution where we could date

3425
02:27:48,670 --> 02:27:46,700
chromosome 2 and where we could date

3426
02:27:50,170 --> 02:27:48,680
these anomalies and that's where right

3427
02:27:52,510 --> 02:27:50,180
now is I'm in a position to be able to

3428
02:27:54,460 --> 02:27:52,520
say well you know his specific changes

3429
02:27:57,460 --> 02:27:54,470
and the dates on them so you know we've

3430
02:27:59,410 --> 02:27:57,470
moved beyond the relying on ancient

3431
02:28:01,690 --> 02:27:59,420
texts and stories to look here's what's

3432
02:28:06,340 --> 02:28:01,700
actually in the genome well what is the

3433
02:28:08,770 --> 02:28:06,350
date of the chromosome to combo like

3434
02:28:10,330 --> 02:28:08,780
that has now date there's a guy British

3435
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:10,340
biologist who looked at he wanted to

3436
02:28:14,860 --> 02:28:13,040
work out when it happened and the first

3437
02:28:16,900 --> 02:28:14,870
thing that you come to is that it

3438
02:28:19,090 --> 02:28:16,910
appears in Neanderthals and Denisovans I

3439
02:28:22,030 --> 02:28:19,100
know so he said well we know that that

3440
02:28:24,130 --> 02:28:22,040
we all split around about 750 you know

3441
02:28:25,929 --> 02:28:24,140
plus thousand years ago so it has to be

3442
02:28:27,340 --> 02:28:25,939
at least that old and then he went to

3443
02:28:28,540 --> 02:28:27,350
see well how old could it be was it all

3444
02:28:31,060 --> 02:28:28,550
the way back to when we split from

3445
02:28:32,950 --> 02:28:31,070
chimps or was it more recently and so he

3446
02:28:34,870 --> 02:28:32,960
went into the chemistry of this and

3447
02:28:37,060 --> 02:28:34,880
looked at when the ends of the two

3448
02:28:38,410 --> 02:28:37,070
chromosomes had slowed down their

3449
02:28:40,210 --> 02:28:38,420
mutation rates was when they've merged

3450
02:28:41,740 --> 02:28:40,220
right because ends of chromosomes and

3451
02:28:43,929 --> 02:28:41,750
you take faster than the Middle's for

3452
02:28:46,660 --> 02:28:43,939
the logical kind of reasons so he was

3453
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:46,670
able to to date this merger to being he

3454
02:28:51,850 --> 02:28:49,250
said again somewhere close to 750

3455
02:28:53,770 --> 02:28:51,860
thousand years ago so it's pinpointed on

3456
02:28:56,139 --> 02:28:53,780
that point and we now know that these

3457
02:28:58,300 --> 02:28:56,149
lineages split roughly seven hundred

3458
02:29:00,400 --> 02:28:58,310
eighty thousand years ago ago it happens

3459
02:29:02,020 --> 02:29:00,410
bang on that moment the beginning of the

3460
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:02,030
different lineages happen with

3461
02:29:07,820 --> 02:29:03,450
chromosome two

3462
02:29:09,890 --> 02:29:07,830
fascinating yeah fascinating let's let's

3463
02:29:12,830 --> 02:29:09,900
take our break right here Bruce and then

3464
02:29:14,690 --> 02:29:12,840
we'll come back and and we'll do some

3465
02:29:17,180 --> 02:29:14,700
overtime in this last segment our guest

3466
02:29:19,011 --> 02:29:17,190
tonight Bruce our event we're talking

3467
02:29:20,270 --> 02:29:19,021
about the book that he just co-authored

3468
02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:20,280
with his wife Daniela

3469
02:29:26,540 --> 02:29:23,690
it's called XO Genesis hybrid humid

3470
02:29:28,580 --> 02:29:26,550
scientific history of extraterrestrial

3471
02:29:30,921 --> 02:29:28,590
genetic manipulation more with Bruce

3472
02:29:31,250 --> 02:29:30,931
heading in overtime after this short

3473
02:29:33,801 --> 02:29:31,260
break

3474
02:29:36,470 --> 02:29:33,811
this is fade to black on the game

3475
02:29:39,730 --> 02:29:36,480
changer network and Katie are a the

3476
02:29:57,260 --> 02:29:39,740
planet Amuro Skippy Church stay with us

3477
02:30:00,090 --> 02:29:57,270
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3546
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3547
02:33:39,500 --> 02:33:37,080
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3548
02:33:41,150 --> 02:33:39,510
my guest tonight Bruce our Fenton we are

3549
02:33:43,969 --> 02:33:41,160
talking about the zoo book it was just

3550
02:33:46,250 --> 02:33:43,979
released XO Genesis human hybrids a

3551
02:33:48,740 --> 02:33:46,260
scientific history of extraterrestrial

3552
02:33:51,560 --> 02:33:48,750
genetic manipulation co-authored with

3553
02:33:52,849 --> 02:33:51,570
his wife and Daniella and the links for

3554
02:33:55,400 --> 02:33:52,859
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3557
02:34:06,380 --> 02:34:04,439
Bruce okay this is where I find that

3558
02:34:10,010 --> 02:34:06,390
things get very very interesting because

3559
02:34:12,469 --> 02:34:10,020
we've we've all followed such in Lloyd

3560
02:34:14,090 --> 02:34:12,479
Pye and and looked into the island

3561
02:34:15,770 --> 02:34:14,100
hockey story it's been discussed over

3562
02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:15,780
and over again on this program and

3563
02:34:19,849 --> 02:34:18,240
others there's that part of it and I

3564
02:34:22,250 --> 02:34:19,859
always think that there's a Genesis

3565
02:34:25,250 --> 02:34:22,260
there's some progeny to all of these

3566
02:34:28,370 --> 02:34:25,260
origins stories the Sumerians did not

3567
02:34:30,950 --> 02:34:28,380
make this up they saw something it's

3568
02:34:35,389 --> 02:34:30,960
there it was written it was documented

3569
02:34:40,090 --> 02:34:35,399
as part of history same thing with with

3570
02:34:42,950 --> 02:34:40,100
Australia and and and there's where the

3571
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:42,960
it's not made up this kind of science

3572
02:34:49,490 --> 02:34:46,530
fiction wasn't part of stories yeah yeah

3573
02:34:53,620 --> 02:34:49,500
you know what I mean but there's the

3574
02:34:56,230 --> 02:34:53,630
other side to this where there are

3575
02:34:59,510 --> 02:34:56,240
billions of planets in the Milky Way

3576
02:35:03,620 --> 02:34:59,520
that are just like earth you could talk

3577
02:35:09,230 --> 02:35:03,630
about the Pleiades if you want but there

3578
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:09,240
is billions of planets and an infinite

3579
02:35:14,650 --> 02:35:12,000
amount of civilizations out there that

3580
02:35:17,660 --> 02:35:14,660
are that are exploring the planets and

3581
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:17,670
the visitation here just like today

3582
02:35:25,219 --> 02:35:21,120
could be from anywhere from thousands of

3583
02:35:28,610 --> 02:35:25,229
different civilizations visiting this

3584
02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:28,620
planet and it very may well be that what

3585
02:35:34,730 --> 02:35:31,680
happened in Sumeria is independent of

3586
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:34,740
and not the same civilization that

3587
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:38,090
visited 780 thousand years ago right

3588
02:35:42,110 --> 02:35:40,530
yeah I mean we always have you know

3589
02:35:43,820 --> 02:35:42,120
there's always possibly after multiple

3590
02:35:46,051 --> 02:35:43,830
groups but I will say if you look at the

3591
02:35:47,820 --> 02:35:46,061
the law in Sumeria

3592
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:47,830
that there's a lot pointing to the

3593
02:35:52,201 --> 02:35:49,570
Pleiades there's a lot that number seven

3594
02:35:55,350 --> 02:35:52,211
popping up a lot the 7up kallu there's

3595
02:35:57,961 --> 02:35:55,360
images of seven seven bodies in the sky

3596
02:36:00,991 --> 02:35:57,971
above them because you got Ishtar the

3597
02:36:02,310 --> 02:36:01,001
goddess of Pleiades link goddess it pops

3598
02:36:03,871 --> 02:36:02,320
up a lot and in fact there's a guy

3599
02:36:05,430 --> 02:36:03,881
called Leonard farmer who's written a

3600
02:36:06,961 --> 02:36:05,440
series of books of Pleiades in the old

3601
02:36:10,291 --> 02:36:06,971
world Pleiades in the new world clearly

3602
02:36:11,701 --> 02:36:10,301
is in everything people find but he goes

3603
02:36:15,121 --> 02:36:11,711
deep dives into and actually shows that

3604
02:36:17,911 --> 02:36:15,131
is overwhelmingly pointing Schwartz of

3605
02:36:18,991 --> 02:36:17,921
Lydian influence in Samaria as well so I

3606
02:36:20,820 --> 02:36:19,001
think we are dealing with the same

3607
02:36:22,531 --> 02:36:20,830
beings now on top of that again with

3608
02:36:24,331 --> 02:36:22,541
your links there with models of all the

3609
02:36:26,220 --> 02:36:24,341
like reptilian humanoids there's that

3610
02:36:27,781 --> 02:36:26,230
famous one of the female they're holding

3611
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:27,791
a baby but she's reptilian and the

3612
02:36:31,201 --> 02:36:29,530
baby's reptilian I'm not sure if most of

3613
02:36:33,451 --> 02:36:31,211
the listeners will even know that they

3614
02:36:34,921 --> 02:36:33,461
can find it so I think we are dealing

3615
02:36:37,650 --> 02:36:34,931
with the same beings I think within the

3616
02:36:39,930 --> 02:36:37,660
same - mainly the same two groups

3617
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:39,940
throughout history that are interacting

3618
02:36:43,621 --> 02:36:41,200
with us not say they're the only ones

3619
02:36:45,060 --> 02:36:43,631
but this is main - of these kind of

3620
02:36:46,890 --> 02:36:45,070
humanoid ones and these kind of

3621
02:36:49,501 --> 02:36:46,900
reptilian ones that appear again and

3622
02:36:51,871 --> 02:36:49,511
again in our stories you know in the

3623
02:36:53,730 --> 02:36:51,881
mythologies and again yeah I do think

3624
02:36:55,860 --> 02:36:53,740
we're doing the same now one of the

3625
02:36:58,140 --> 02:36:55,870
things that's come recently was

3626
02:37:00,331 --> 02:36:58,150
interesting in terms of the citroen

3627
02:37:02,610 --> 02:37:00,341
story you know cuz obviously he posited

3628
02:37:04,951 --> 02:37:02,620
the idea that there was an additional

3629
02:37:07,201 --> 02:37:04,961
planet right out there that the beings

3630
02:37:09,060 --> 02:37:07,211
were coming from now I personally I've

3631
02:37:11,100 --> 02:37:09,070
never bought that it just doesn't fit

3632
02:37:12,511 --> 02:37:11,110
you know things that you there's no it

3633
02:37:13,951 --> 02:37:12,521
just doesn't fit well for me right did

3634
02:37:15,810 --> 02:37:13,961
this I did this planet that comes in and

3635
02:37:18,180 --> 02:37:15,820
out again and we're talking about ie

3636
02:37:19,501 --> 02:37:18,190
room yeah right they were really star

3637
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:19,511
travelers and they had all these ship

3638
02:37:22,140 --> 02:37:20,650
they wouldn't need to wait for the

3639
02:37:23,671 --> 02:37:22,150
planet to come closer or anything like

3640
02:37:24,570 --> 02:37:23,681
that you know I mean they were there's a

3641
02:37:26,161 --> 02:37:24,580
lot about it didn't add up

3642
02:37:28,350 --> 02:37:26,171
but what's recently being found and this

3643
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:28,360
is really interesting is that there's a

3644
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:29,410
couple of different articles have come

3645
02:37:33,781 --> 02:37:31,450
out in the last year where they think

3646
02:37:36,001 --> 02:37:33,791
that possibly this other body out in our

3647
02:37:37,650 --> 02:37:36,011
solar system there's Planet X or you

3648
02:37:39,961 --> 02:37:37,660
know whatever that that it might

3649
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:39,971
actually be a kind of black hole right

3650
02:37:43,650 --> 02:37:41,530
have you think about that what if it's

3651
02:37:45,331 --> 02:37:43,660
not a black hole it's a wormhole and at

3652
02:37:47,310 --> 02:37:45,341
the entrance to the wormhole is the

3653
02:37:49,501 --> 02:37:47,320
massive object which is in our solar

3654
02:37:50,730 --> 02:37:49,511
system because in that case the beings

3655
02:37:52,501 --> 02:37:50,740
would seem like they were coming from

3656
02:37:54,331 --> 02:37:52,511
another body out there they could say

3657
02:37:56,251 --> 02:37:54,341
yeah we came from out there but it's not

3658
02:37:58,140 --> 02:37:56,261
actually a planet it could be an anomaly

3659
02:37:59,020 --> 02:37:58,150
and then these things that is the gate

3660
02:38:01,000 --> 02:37:59,030
the links

3661
02:38:03,010 --> 02:38:01,010
back to the Pleiades and links off out

3662
02:38:04,270 --> 02:38:03,020
onto the grid you know if stargates and

3663
02:38:05,560 --> 02:38:04,280
this is a photo because you look at

3664
02:38:07,360 --> 02:38:05,570
native law it took about the spider's

3665
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:07,370
web this crime of the spider there's a

3666
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:08,960
there's a spider's thread that comes

3667
02:38:13,630 --> 02:38:12,110
down this is a thing in Cree in Canada

3668
02:38:15,160 --> 02:38:13,640
that they talk about this your hole in

3669
02:38:16,780 --> 02:38:15,170
the sky of the Pleiades and a web that

3670
02:38:18,790 --> 02:38:16,790
comes down and connects us to the web

3671
02:38:21,250 --> 02:38:18,800
and what is the web is that the network

3672
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:21,260
of stargates one has to wonder right

3673
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:23,120
there's this our jumping-off point isn't

3674
02:38:27,070 --> 02:38:25,010
anomaly there's out there where the

3675
02:38:28,540 --> 02:38:27,080
beings come through and then they come

3676
02:38:30,160 --> 02:38:28,550
to earth now that makes a lot more sense

3677
02:38:33,640 --> 02:38:30,170
there being a planning out there in the

3678
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:33,650
cold fringes that they live on right so

3679
02:38:37,060 --> 02:38:35,210
I think there's some times as the time

3680
02:38:38,470 --> 02:38:37,070
moves on we can with the genetics know

3681
02:38:40,690 --> 02:38:38,480
we get more information these stories

3682
02:38:42,010 --> 02:38:40,700
evolve a bit because you know 40 years

3683
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:42,020
ago or something you can only deal with

3684
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:43,850
what you know okay so people trying

3685
02:38:48,340 --> 02:38:46,610
rocket ships you know other planets but

3686
02:38:50,380 --> 02:38:48,350
now we know about spatial anomalies and

3687
02:38:53,110 --> 02:38:50,390
we know about you know interdimensional

3688
02:38:55,780 --> 02:38:53,120
bend time-space bending technologies

3689
02:38:58,330 --> 02:38:55,790
that we understand kind of what it's

3690
02:38:59,710 --> 02:38:58,340
more likely to be right now we wouldn't

3691
02:39:00,880 --> 02:38:59,720
talk about rocket ships in it we know

3692
02:39:01,540 --> 02:39:00,890
that aliens are meat ran around in

3693
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:01,550
rocket ships

3694
02:39:06,880 --> 02:39:04,730
okay right that's obvious now at the

3695
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:06,890
time all CG and other people knew there

3696
02:39:12,010 --> 02:39:10,130
was NASA rockets okay so that's what was

3697
02:39:13,240 --> 02:39:12,020
filled in into the narrative was out

3698
02:39:15,070 --> 02:39:13,250
probably these beings came here and

3699
02:39:16,270 --> 02:39:15,080
rockets from another planet once you

3700
02:39:17,800 --> 02:39:16,280
think about wormholes they don't need to

3701
02:39:19,740 --> 02:39:17,810
come from a nearby planet they can come

3702
02:39:25,390 --> 02:39:19,750
from the other side of the galaxy

3703
02:39:28,300 --> 02:39:25,400
what about we have the Pleiadian side of

3704
02:39:30,990 --> 02:39:28,310
things what about the Orion what about

3705
02:39:33,460 --> 02:39:31,000
the Orion side and is that fit into

3706
02:39:35,500 --> 02:39:33,470
Australia yeah that's that's actually

3707
02:39:37,660 --> 02:39:35,510
where the other group from that they're

3708
02:39:39,280 --> 02:39:37,670
in conflict with and in fact that's

3709
02:39:41,560 --> 02:39:39,290
really say in the in the narrative that

3710
02:39:43,870 --> 02:39:41,570
you know in fairies work so that when

3711
02:39:46,270 --> 02:39:43,880
the the other group of the pleadians

3712
02:39:48,790 --> 02:39:46,280
allies arrive here there's a kind of a

3713
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:48,800
policing mission as a response to what's

3714
02:39:52,540 --> 02:39:51,200
happened to this colony ship they drip

3715
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:52,550
on bottom of the planet with these

3716
02:39:56,110 --> 02:39:54,560
asteroids and they say the other group

3717
02:39:57,640 --> 02:39:56,120
they kicked most of them they take the

3718
02:39:59,890 --> 02:39:57,650
planet and leave through a Stargate back

3719
02:40:02,200 --> 02:39:59,900
to Orion that's where they come from and

3720
02:40:04,690 --> 02:40:02,210
if you look at the ancient mythology

3721
02:40:07,780 --> 02:40:04,700
Orion the Hunter he's chasing the

3722
02:40:09,310 --> 02:40:07,790
Pleiades and then slaying a dragon right

3723
02:40:10,900 --> 02:40:09,320
yeah there's a conflict between these

3724
02:40:12,631 --> 02:40:10,910
two there's a pond lip between Orion and

3725
02:40:14,190 --> 02:40:12,641
the Pleiades this is age

3726
02:40:16,470 --> 02:40:14,200
and we're essentially seeing me to the

3727
02:40:18,390 --> 02:40:16,480
Cold War that's how I look at it you

3728
02:40:19,501 --> 02:40:18,400
know the as above so below look down

3729
02:40:21,241 --> 02:40:19,511
here we've always been in this strange

3730
02:40:23,131 --> 02:40:21,251
cold what east versus west and all the

3731
02:40:24,301 --> 02:40:23,141
rest of that you can go back a long time

3732
02:40:26,671 --> 02:40:24,311
there's always been some semblance of a

3733
02:40:28,951 --> 02:40:26,681
Cold War down here it's not just down

3734
02:40:30,930 --> 02:40:28,961
here right it's up there you've got two

3735
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:30,940
very powerful collectives they're not

3736
02:40:34,801 --> 02:40:32,650
actively fighting in this solar system

3737
02:40:35,821 --> 02:40:34,811
own but there is a cold war between them

3738
02:40:37,650 --> 02:40:35,831
and we're seeing the middle the

3739
02:40:39,451 --> 02:40:37,660
influences are still here and that's

3740
02:40:41,701 --> 02:40:39,461
what contactees say you know on the one

3741
02:40:42,781 --> 02:40:41,711
side there's these negative experiences

3742
02:40:44,251 --> 02:40:42,791
on those others it's positive

3743
02:40:46,171 --> 02:40:44,261
experiences please let me include ears

3744
02:40:47,911 --> 02:40:46,181
on people meaning reptilians that this

3745
02:40:48,421 --> 02:40:47,921
stuff is still going on so this isn't

3746
02:40:49,801 --> 02:40:48,431
over

3747
02:40:52,201 --> 02:40:49,811
you know this Cold War is still there

3748
02:40:54,001 --> 02:40:52,211
bubbling away in the background but it

3749
02:40:57,081 --> 02:40:54,011
has been hot in the past you know

3750
02:41:00,421 --> 02:40:57,091
there's been active warfare in the past

3751
02:41:11,791 --> 02:41:00,431
explain a lot on this planet now for the

3752
02:41:14,310 --> 02:41:11,801
humans are ladies the but okay so word

3753
02:41:16,411 --> 02:41:14,320
you know we have the Orion side this is

3754
02:41:21,180 --> 02:41:16,421
this is getting very interesting and the

3755
02:41:22,890 --> 02:41:21,190
Pleiades is there one wormhole that is

3756
02:41:28,230 --> 02:41:22,900
reaching out to both both of these

3757
02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:28,240
constellations or are there two I don't

3758
02:41:31,381 --> 02:41:30,190
know but I mean there could be two there

3759
02:41:33,180 --> 02:41:31,391
could be other ways they're doing this

3760
02:41:35,341 --> 02:41:33,190
you know we here know about portals you

3761
02:41:36,900 --> 02:41:35,351
know so and are there other ways they're

3762
02:41:38,131 --> 02:41:36,910
more you know maybe small-scale where

3763
02:41:39,511 --> 02:41:38,141
you know you can open a portal and

3764
02:41:41,011 --> 02:41:39,521
beings come through cuz that gets

3765
02:41:42,060 --> 02:41:41,021
reported you know you hear people saying

3766
02:41:44,131 --> 02:41:42,070
that they've seen beings come through

3767
02:41:45,991 --> 02:41:44,141
portals and so so I mean maybe the

3768
02:41:48,031 --> 02:41:46,001
wormholes are for ships and that portals

3769
02:41:50,011 --> 02:41:48,041
maybe allow individuals through those

3770
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:50,021
smaller gateways so I mean how exactly

3771
02:41:54,270 --> 02:41:51,730
all this is done we're going into kind

3772
02:41:57,720 --> 02:41:54,280
of mind-boggling physics right which is

3773
02:41:59,520 --> 02:41:57,730
you know beyond my level of physics but

3774
02:42:01,980 --> 02:41:59,530
it does seem that in some cases we see

3775
02:42:04,711 --> 02:42:01,990
the term as smaller gateways the beings

3776
02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:04,721
are peer through so how is acting all of

3777
02:42:08,341 --> 02:42:06,280
that functions you know I can only

3778
02:42:11,161 --> 02:42:08,351
speculate but I think that yeah that

3779
02:42:13,051 --> 02:42:11,171
there's definitely at least one major on

3780
02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:13,061
a Stargate link from here but it could

3781
02:42:15,871 --> 02:42:14,410
be that yeah it could be one and it

3782
02:42:17,581 --> 02:42:15,881
could be that they link on from there to

3783
02:42:19,741 --> 02:42:17,591
other places again the Pleiades

3784
02:42:21,091 --> 02:42:19,751
connection you know the the beings this

3785
02:42:22,591 --> 02:42:21,101
is kinda clarified the beings on this

3786
02:42:25,051 --> 02:42:22,601
ship they're not all they're not really

3787
02:42:26,060 --> 02:42:25,061
from there as such you know there's not

3788
02:42:27,530 --> 02:42:26,070
are they involved there

3789
02:42:29,060 --> 02:42:27,540
there's a collective of different beings

3790
02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:29,070
on this ship mm-hmm they're not just

3791
02:42:32,450 --> 02:42:30,930
this one type that we've talked about

3792
02:42:33,800 --> 02:42:32,460
these kind of blue humans there's others

3793
02:42:35,720 --> 02:42:33,810
on there there's some those Silla as a

3794
02:42:37,340 --> 02:42:35,730
silicon-based life-form that is in a

3795
02:42:39,380 --> 02:42:37,350
kind of robotic suit is one of them

3796
02:42:40,910 --> 02:42:39,390
right there's others that are even not

3797
02:42:42,590 --> 02:42:40,920
really even physical as such they're

3798
02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:42,600
more like it's somewhere in between and

3799
02:42:45,380 --> 02:42:43,530
they're on board

3800
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:45,390
there's beings are not physical to

3801
02:42:48,050 --> 02:42:46,560
interact with them that you know

3802
02:42:49,761 --> 02:42:48,060
communicate information it's like a

3803
02:42:51,200 --> 02:42:49,771
collective of different entities out

3804
02:42:52,490 --> 02:42:51,210
there you know according to the Star

3805
02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:52,500
Trek kind of thing you know an alliance

3806
02:42:56,270 --> 02:42:54,210
of all kinds of different beings on the

3807
02:42:58,130 --> 02:42:56,280
one side and on the other side the

3808
02:43:00,050 --> 02:42:58,140
reptilians people you know contactees

3809
02:43:02,240 --> 02:43:00,060
have seen them with mantis people and

3810
02:43:03,440 --> 02:43:02,250
with greys that's a fright so it seems

3811
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:03,450
like there's different collectives out

3812
02:43:06,530 --> 02:43:04,800
there it's not as simple as two

3813
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:06,540
different species and that's it you know

3814
02:43:11,450 --> 02:43:09,930
that is a far more complex alliances and

3815
02:43:13,490 --> 02:43:11,460
network of politics going on out there

3816
02:43:15,290 --> 02:43:13,500
that would boggle our minds you know

3817
02:43:16,970 --> 02:43:15,300
being like that scene in Star Trek where

3818
02:43:18,800 --> 02:43:16,980
it'll be you know they're in the air via

3819
02:43:20,990 --> 02:43:18,810
Ambassador Oriole meeting right with all

3820
02:43:22,700 --> 02:43:21,000
the different rights of states that you

3821
02:43:25,340 --> 02:43:22,710
may be something more wacky like that

3822
02:43:27,470 --> 02:43:25,350
now what about symbolism what about the

3823
02:43:29,810 --> 02:43:27,480
megalithic sites around the world I just

3824
02:43:31,940 --> 02:43:29,820
mentioned gobekli tepe earlier in the

3825
02:43:33,261 --> 02:43:31,950
show and of course we have we have Giza

3826
02:43:37,430 --> 02:43:33,271
and the Giza Plateau in the Great

3827
02:43:40,490 --> 02:43:37,440
Pyramid we've got Stonehenge what about

3828
02:43:43,011 --> 02:43:40,500
those sites are those directly connected

3829
02:43:47,600 --> 02:43:43,021
and you know there's a lot of research

3830
02:43:51,220 --> 02:43:47,610
tying a lion directly to the great

3831
02:43:52,610 --> 02:43:51,230
pyramid and the pyramid complex and even

3832
02:43:55,070 --> 02:43:52,620
gobekli tepe

3833
02:43:58,330 --> 02:43:55,080
and other cultures around the planet too

3834
02:44:00,860 --> 02:43:58,340
as well not directly connected to a

3835
02:44:03,790 --> 02:44:00,870
megalithic site pointing towards Orion

3836
02:44:06,530 --> 02:44:03,800
but they have the Orion origin story

3837
02:44:10,490 --> 02:44:06,540
that as part of their culture

3838
02:44:12,020 --> 02:44:10,500
is there a tie-in there yeah there isn't

3839
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:12,030
me particularly the Great Pyramid in

3840
02:44:15,710 --> 02:44:14,250
fact if you look at the Giza Plateau is

3841
02:44:17,390 --> 02:44:15,720
actually a star map on the ground

3842
02:44:19,580 --> 02:44:17,400
there's the important sites of the Giza

3843
02:44:21,920 --> 02:44:19,590
Plateau the met shot to various

3844
02:44:23,450 --> 02:44:21,930
constellations Orion and the Pleiades

3845
02:44:26,540 --> 02:44:23,460
obviously got Ryan you've got the main

3846
02:44:29,660 --> 02:44:26,550
pyramids the Pleiades down and I will go

3847
02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:29,670
out and I will Simba right you've got on

3848
02:44:32,600 --> 02:44:30,930
the ground you've got the Pleiades

3849
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:32,610
system there and you've also got other

3850
02:44:35,600 --> 02:44:33,930
stars that are matched to the core and

3851
02:44:37,430 --> 02:44:35,610
the whole of the Giza Plateau so star

3852
02:44:39,930 --> 02:44:37,440
map so I mean you can always if you look

3853
02:44:42,421 --> 02:44:39,940
at the Stars and you start overlaying

3854
02:44:43,980 --> 02:44:42,431
you can actually find sites on the

3855
02:44:46,381 --> 02:44:43,990
plateau by knowing where stars were

3856
02:44:47,700 --> 02:44:46,391
right this is a kind of amazing fact but

3857
02:44:49,411 --> 02:44:47,710
you could actually gunfight you could

3858
02:44:50,820 --> 02:44:49,421
make a discovery just based on meshing

3859
02:44:53,011 --> 02:44:50,830
the Stars to the ground because all

3860
02:44:57,270 --> 02:44:53,021
their key sites on the plateau mesh with

3861
02:44:58,560 --> 02:44:57,280
a star right so they understand you know

3862
02:45:00,541 --> 02:44:58,570
these links and it's not just a rhino

3863
02:45:03,270 --> 02:45:00,551
source of the Pleiades and those are two

3864
02:45:06,331 --> 02:45:03,280
the two most crucial you know star

3865
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:06,341
systems in fact there is a site a burger

3866
02:45:11,671 --> 02:45:08,290
app which is where for me mostess began

3867
02:45:14,070 --> 02:45:11,681
I mean I went there back in 2011 11 11

3868
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:14,080
11 other she there with a friend mine

3869
02:45:17,430 --> 02:45:15,490
Richard Gabrielle who is also his

3870
02:45:19,200 --> 02:45:17,440
nutritional research at like Jeff

3871
02:45:20,671 --> 02:45:19,210
degrees of Egypt researcher from the UK

3872
02:45:23,341 --> 02:45:20,681
he happened to be there at the same time

3873
02:45:24,930 --> 02:45:23,351
as me we didn't arrange this but thanks

3874
02:45:26,251 --> 02:45:24,940
to him I was able to get to what sighs I

3875
02:45:28,470 --> 02:45:26,261
wouldn't off like under the pyramids

3876
02:45:30,421 --> 02:45:28,480
into areas under the ground also in so

3877
02:45:32,371 --> 02:45:30,431
Abu gorab which is supposedly off-limits

3878
02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:32,381
and that is actually there's an article

3879
02:45:36,121 --> 02:45:33,790
out there by William Henry called the

3880
02:45:36,990 --> 02:45:36,131
Stargate and Abu gorab and I don't even

3881
02:45:38,700 --> 02:45:37,000
know that this was supposed to be a

3882
02:45:40,051 --> 02:45:38,710
Stargate side but this is where it

3883
02:45:43,051 --> 02:45:40,061
happened for me because I was there and

3884
02:45:45,570 --> 02:45:43,061
I got this this sense of a connection

3885
02:45:46,860 --> 02:45:45,580
with the Pleiades and looked up you know

3886
02:45:48,450 --> 02:45:46,870
I was looking at it and I started to I

3887
02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:48,460
don't know if it's blintz but like a

3888
02:45:52,081 --> 02:45:50,110
sense that there was someone there and I

3889
02:45:53,461 --> 02:45:52,091
was talking to them in my mind that you

3890
02:45:54,841 --> 02:45:53,471
know why I mean why don't you come back

3891
02:45:57,001 --> 02:45:54,851
why are you helping the planet the

3892
02:45:58,440 --> 02:45:57,011
planets in all this trouble and like a

3893
02:46:00,661 --> 02:45:58,450
real sense that there was someone else

3894
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:00,671
there like my standing in that site now

3895
02:46:03,331 --> 02:46:02,110
later on I found out she that that's

3896
02:46:04,650 --> 02:46:03,341
supposed to be a Stargate slight with

3897
02:46:07,530 --> 02:46:04,660
the connections in the Pleiades and that

3898
02:46:09,320 --> 02:46:07,540
the the is a large crystalline platform

3899
02:46:11,581 --> 02:46:09,330
there with a hotel symbol on it this

3900
02:46:14,161 --> 02:46:11,591
alabaster platform really weird people

3901
02:46:15,751 --> 02:46:14,171
look it up the platform regret and we

3902
02:46:17,430 --> 02:46:15,761
were standing on we kind of did a like

3903
02:46:18,871 --> 02:46:17,440
you know meditation standing on it

3904
02:46:20,610 --> 02:46:18,881
before that and that seemed to have

3905
02:46:22,110 --> 02:46:20,620
connected me to these bloody and beings

3906
02:46:23,581 --> 02:46:22,120
and that's when it all began for me

3907
02:46:24,841 --> 02:46:23,591
really this whole thing I mean a few

3908
02:46:27,360 --> 02:46:24,851
months later my wife had direct contact

3909
02:46:29,341 --> 02:46:27,370
with them they started basically kind of

3910
02:46:30,990 --> 02:46:29,351
astral ducting her she's got a load of

3911
02:46:32,761 --> 02:46:31,000
information all sorts of stuff happened

3912
02:46:34,980 --> 02:46:32,771
to her for a year like every few days

3913
02:46:36,930 --> 02:46:34,990
she was getting taken by them interacted

3914
02:46:38,970 --> 02:46:36,940
with and that's what led to connecting

3915
02:46:39,950 --> 02:46:38,980
with Valley Barrow and these Australians

3916
02:46:42,541 --> 02:46:39,960
that were involved in this research

3917
02:46:44,100 --> 02:46:42,551
because they're our own 2dn connections

3918
02:46:45,570 --> 02:46:44,110
that were going on so this isn't this

3919
02:46:48,180 --> 02:46:45,580
didn't just come out of nowhere there's

3920
02:46:50,640 --> 02:46:48,190
a much longer complex backstory to why

3921
02:46:51,860 --> 02:46:50,650
my wife and I ever got involved in this

3922
02:46:53,750 --> 02:46:51,870
then we had sown

3923
02:46:56,060 --> 02:46:53,760
stuff going on in the background that

3924
02:46:57,200 --> 02:46:56,070
doesn't all make it into that book you

3925
02:46:59,240 --> 02:46:57,210
know I cover some of those you know

3926
02:47:00,830 --> 02:46:59,250
there's a chapter though we tackle a

3927
02:47:02,750 --> 02:47:00,840
little bit my wife's experiences but she

3928
02:47:05,240 --> 02:47:02,760
had like two or three and hence a week

3929
02:47:08,350 --> 02:47:05,250
for about a year and so it was a massive

3930
02:47:11,390 --> 02:47:08,360
amounts of information stuff going on

3931
02:47:17,780 --> 02:47:11,400
she's gonna be our next guest on a fade

3932
02:47:22,970 --> 02:47:17,790
to black by the way talked her into it

3933
02:47:26,420 --> 02:47:22,980
but what about megalithic sites in

3934
02:47:28,341 --> 02:47:26,430
Australia yeah they're all magnificent

3935
02:47:31,190 --> 02:47:28,351
story they don't get a lot of kinda ch

3936
02:47:35,210 --> 02:47:31,200
no no they they don't get a lot of them

3937
02:47:39,170 --> 02:47:35,220
cover but we do have this a pyramid site

3938
02:47:41,150 --> 02:47:39,180
there's the gimpy pyramid there's large

3939
02:47:43,160 --> 02:47:41,160
Mikulov complexes which have been

3940
02:47:45,020 --> 02:47:43,170
destroyed mainly which is one of the

3941
02:47:47,180 --> 02:47:45,030
problems that farmers used to break them

3942
02:47:50,420 --> 02:47:47,190
up almost mow them into the ground well

3943
02:47:51,860 --> 02:47:50,430
what part of Australia well across but

3944
02:47:53,210 --> 02:47:51,870
we've done in New South Wales where I

3945
02:47:55,520 --> 02:47:53,220
was living you know there's yeah there's

3946
02:47:57,530 --> 02:47:55,530
quite a lot there that there was quite a

3947
02:47:59,240 --> 02:47:57,540
lot of sites there that in many cases

3948
02:48:01,400 --> 02:47:59,250
you're smaller was called Bora rings

3949
02:48:03,110 --> 02:48:01,410
which has smaller stone rings but but

3950
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:03,120
the larger sites it seems that you know

3951
02:48:07,070 --> 02:48:04,650
that historically a lot of places were

3952
02:48:09,410 --> 02:48:07,080
smashed up and there's a few there's a

3953
02:48:12,080 --> 02:48:09,420
big deal about one site not really New

3954
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:12,090
South Wales but there's a stone circle

3955
02:48:14,750 --> 02:48:13,050
which has been moved into the ground

3956
02:48:17,841 --> 02:48:14,760
which some people been trying to push

3957
02:48:18,320 --> 02:48:17,851
for getting a kind of repaired but up in

3958
02:48:20,270 --> 02:48:18,330
the north

3959
02:48:22,280 --> 02:48:20,280
there's mound sites and they think these

3960
02:48:24,950 --> 02:48:22,290
mounds go back to maybe nine ten

3961
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:24,960
thousand years ago or more there's

3962
02:48:28,040 --> 02:48:26,730
others say lots of these small so you

3963
02:48:29,930 --> 02:48:28,050
thought one of the earliest stone

3964
02:48:33,140 --> 02:48:29,940
circles astronomical observatory type

3965
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:33,150
circles I think it may be so what's

3966
02:48:37,910 --> 02:48:36,090
exact age maybe against was that no peak

3967
02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:37,920
thousand or so years old is a stone

3968
02:48:41,390 --> 02:48:39,450
circle in Australia on the first

3969
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:41,400
astronomical surgery so this they're not

3970
02:48:44,301 --> 02:48:42,720
very well known that people think of

3971
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:44,311
Australia's not having anything like

3972
02:48:48,830 --> 02:48:45,930
that you know because it doesn't really

3973
02:48:51,020 --> 02:48:48,840
get the the coverage that you know Egypt

3974
02:48:53,120 --> 02:48:51,030
and you have some Harriet Africa but

3975
02:48:55,130 --> 02:48:53,130
they do have mound sites they do have

3976
02:48:57,170 --> 02:48:55,140
stone circles and they did have mega

3977
02:48:58,880 --> 02:48:57,180
lifts which have been destroyed and then

3978
02:49:00,380 --> 02:48:58,890
you go up into the further up into

3979
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:00,390
island Southeast Asia and Indonesia

3980
02:49:03,950 --> 02:49:01,920
there's a lot of mega lives there and

3981
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:03,960
they're not what they're not dated right

3982
02:49:08,950 --> 02:49:05,930
but some of these I believe go back

3983
02:49:10,420 --> 02:49:08,960
beyond to our thousand right that that's

3984
02:49:12,880 --> 02:49:10,430
where I think that there was a last

3985
02:49:14,800 --> 02:49:12,890
civilization that we might well call

3986
02:49:17,290 --> 02:49:14,810
Atlantis something like that that was in

3987
02:49:19,300 --> 02:49:17,300
that region before the water rose and

3988
02:49:21,130 --> 02:49:19,310
just left those Islands they you speak

3989
02:49:22,809 --> 02:49:21,140
human I'll and there some that the swim

3990
02:49:24,729 --> 02:49:22,819
the plate and I think that there was a

3991
02:49:26,679 --> 02:49:24,739
large advance to megalithic civilization

3992
02:49:28,059 --> 02:49:26,689
there and what we see now on some of

3993
02:49:30,429 --> 02:49:28,069
those islands these individual mega

3994
02:49:32,469 --> 02:49:30,439
lifts and parts of a last culture which

3995
02:49:34,269 --> 02:49:32,479
you know gave us things like good and

3996
02:49:35,800 --> 02:49:34,279
bad I'm you know the new impediment

3997
02:49:37,389 --> 02:49:35,810
seems to be possibly twenty thousand

3998
02:49:39,250 --> 02:49:37,399
years old or more you know a huge temple

3999
02:49:41,859 --> 02:49:39,260
site right right the Mesa

4000
02:49:43,420 --> 02:49:41,869
so these are the remnants of the

4001
02:49:45,099 --> 02:49:43,430
cultures that were down in Southeast

4002
02:49:46,450 --> 02:49:45,109
Asia and Australasia right that there

4003
02:49:48,399 --> 02:49:46,460
were these mecalac builders the first

4004
02:49:49,689 --> 02:49:48,409
clearly some people told us mean if

4005
02:49:51,700 --> 02:49:49,699
Gooden but I was twenty thousand years

4006
02:49:54,189 --> 02:49:51,710
old I may say the oldest negatives

4007
02:49:57,689 --> 02:49:54,199
excite that we know of now what's the

4008
02:50:01,179 --> 02:49:57,699
difference between you and I today and

4009
02:50:07,330 --> 02:50:01,189
2020 and seven hundred thousand years

4010
02:50:10,170 --> 02:50:07,340
ago you know why it appears and I know

4011
02:50:12,340 --> 02:50:10,180
that I feel that this is the case that

4012
02:50:15,010 --> 02:50:12,350
et had no problem

4013
02:50:19,540 --> 02:50:15,020
about making their presence known with

4014
02:50:22,359 --> 02:50:19,550
us why aren't they doing that today or

4015
02:50:26,490 --> 02:50:22,369
are they coming back and when they do

4016
02:50:30,820 --> 02:50:26,500
come back is it gonna be Orion or the

4017
02:50:33,010 --> 02:50:30,830
Pleiades yes I don't think they've gone

4018
02:50:36,760 --> 02:50:33,020
anywhere I think if you look a bit sick

4019
02:50:38,559 --> 02:50:36,770
of you look at the Americas you know the

4020
02:50:39,460 --> 02:50:38,569
north of North American indigenous

4021
02:50:41,170 --> 02:50:39,470
peoples and the South American

4022
02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:41,180
indigenous peoples but they have a

4023
02:50:45,370 --> 02:50:43,520
continuous tradition of interaction

4024
02:50:47,349 --> 02:50:45,380
particularly the elders and shaman's

4025
02:50:49,330 --> 02:50:47,359
that the you know up in the north they

4026
02:50:51,340 --> 02:50:49,340
talk about star family you know star

4027
02:50:54,370 --> 02:50:51,350
family that visit and the in ceremonies

4028
02:50:56,679 --> 02:50:54,380
star family manifests and stuff like if

4029
02:50:58,240 --> 02:50:56,689
you look at the books of ID six killer

4030
02:51:00,250 --> 02:50:58,250
Clark who's got a series of books on

4031
02:51:01,929 --> 02:51:00,260
contact with Native Americans that she

4032
02:51:04,120 --> 02:51:01,939
details so many cases where there's

4033
02:51:05,950 --> 02:51:04,130
ongoing events for Native people and

4034
02:51:07,960 --> 02:51:05,960
down in the south as well done in South

4035
02:51:08,889 --> 02:51:07,970
America it's normal for shaman's and

4036
02:51:11,170 --> 02:51:08,899
stuff to interact with these

4037
02:51:13,359 --> 02:51:11,180
extraterrestrials but in the jungles and

4038
02:51:15,219 --> 02:51:13,369
places like that with Iran fact no I

4039
02:51:17,381 --> 02:51:15,229
totally agree with that

4040
02:51:22,361 --> 02:51:17,391
when I'm talking about you and

4041
02:51:25,871 --> 02:51:22,371
going to the hub with with that that's

4042
02:51:27,341 --> 02:51:25,881
what I'm talking about is the culture of

4043
02:51:30,071 --> 02:51:27,351
what we'd say what the modern European

4044
02:51:31,211 --> 02:51:30,081
North American westernized culture that

4045
02:51:33,041 --> 02:51:31,221
for one reason or another the

4046
02:51:35,560 --> 02:51:33,051
interaction is very limited with us

4047
02:51:37,781 --> 02:51:35,570
that's that's the funny bit is that it's

4048
02:51:40,270 --> 02:51:37,791
not that no one else is having it it's

4049
02:51:41,770 --> 02:51:40,280
our culture the dominator culture which

4050
02:51:43,180 --> 02:51:41,780
is also the culture that's destroying

4051
02:51:45,071 --> 02:51:43,190
the environment and everywhere it seems

4052
02:51:47,861 --> 02:51:45,081
that we're the one that's not really in

4053
02:51:49,961 --> 02:51:47,871
the loop fully okay so I believe that as

4054
02:51:53,171 --> 02:51:49,971
a conscious reason for that these to do

4055
02:51:54,791 --> 02:51:53,181
with perhaps you know how we're behaving

4056
02:51:56,350 --> 02:51:54,801
with the planet and other aspects of our

4057
02:51:58,661 --> 02:51:56,360
culture and also the fact that we've

4058
02:52:00,190 --> 02:51:58,671
turned away from the metaphysical

4059
02:52:02,131 --> 02:52:00,200
thinking that I think that they they're

4060
02:52:05,501 --> 02:52:02,141
are holding back to seeing where we go

4061
02:52:07,900 --> 02:52:05,511
before they look at restoring that kind

4062
02:52:10,060 --> 02:52:07,910
of level of interaction with us because

4063
02:52:12,581 --> 02:52:10,070
obviously no more traditional cultures

4064
02:52:15,220 --> 02:52:12,591
seem to have a very accepting view of

4065
02:52:16,871 --> 02:52:15,230
interaction with other intelligences but

4066
02:52:19,421 --> 02:52:16,881
we don't you know we look at it as we

4067
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:19,431
will and you know crazy and all that

4068
02:52:23,140 --> 02:52:21,110
stuff so it seems that that actually is

4069
02:52:25,361 --> 02:52:23,150
part of why we're not having more

4070
02:52:27,730 --> 02:52:25,371
contact these are cultural beliefs that

4071
02:52:29,071 --> 02:52:27,740
it's you know silly and it seems to have

4072
02:52:31,690 --> 02:52:29,081
actually meant that they're kind of like

4073
02:52:33,371 --> 02:52:31,700
backed off of there so I wonder if you

4074
02:52:35,081 --> 02:52:33,381
know we my thing is if we start to

4075
02:52:38,560 --> 02:52:35,091
accept this information more like this

4076
02:52:39,551 --> 02:52:38,570
case particularly that my finish that

4077
02:52:41,201 --> 02:52:39,561
where they're trying to show us look

4078
02:52:42,850 --> 02:52:41,211
we're related to you you know we've been

4079
02:52:44,531 --> 02:52:42,860
involved with you all this time

4080
02:52:46,150 --> 02:52:44,541
chill out you know we're going to start

4081
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:46,160
manifesting a bit more but understand

4082
02:52:49,810 --> 02:52:47,690
it's not in there you know anything and

4083
02:52:51,791 --> 02:52:49,820
that we are related to you you know

4084
02:52:54,461 --> 02:52:51,801
we're not going to eat you right or any

4085
02:52:55,781 --> 02:52:54,471
flyer says a climatization program I

4086
02:52:57,400 --> 02:52:55,791
think I've reconnecting with other

4087
02:52:58,841 --> 02:52:57,410
people in our culture I think the other

4088
02:53:01,001 --> 02:52:58,851
culture has already sort of have that

4089
02:53:05,281 --> 02:53:01,011
right so I do think it's us that's in

4090
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:05,291
the focus right now well okay so the

4091
02:53:11,890 --> 02:53:08,690
this isn't a United States or in an

4092
02:53:16,930 --> 02:53:11,900
American phenomenon the contact here on

4093
02:53:19,690 --> 02:53:16,940
this planet is is global but the contact

4094
02:53:20,921 --> 02:53:19,700
and the knowledge at the state level I'm

4095
02:53:24,430 --> 02:53:20,931
talking about the United States United

4096
02:53:28,769 --> 02:53:24,440
Kingdom Russia China Japan Brazil Chile

4097
02:53:35,340 --> 02:53:28,779
Argentina Australia

4098
02:53:39,269 --> 02:53:35,350
that contact that ongoing contact is is

4099
02:53:44,399 --> 02:53:39,279
that from the Pleiades is is that from a

4100
02:53:46,949 --> 02:53:44,409
lion or or is it from somewhere else my

4101
02:53:48,840 --> 02:53:46,959
feeling on that is that mainly when we

4102
02:53:50,729 --> 02:53:48,850
get to the kind of conspiratorial not

4103
02:53:53,159 --> 02:53:50,739
you know the deep stage well directed

4104
02:53:55,590 --> 02:53:53,169
that they're dealing with this Orion

4105
02:53:58,229 --> 02:53:55,600
group and this is the main power on our

4106
02:54:00,239 --> 02:53:58,239
planet in terms of ET presences that

4107
02:54:01,859 --> 02:54:00,249
they are a kind of mother you know a

4108
02:54:03,479 --> 02:54:01,869
negative influence but you know if they

4109
02:54:04,979 --> 02:54:03,489
are transferring useful information you

4110
02:54:07,649 --> 02:54:04,989
can imagine with the kind of leaders

4111
02:54:09,269 --> 02:54:07,659
that we've mostly all had that they not

4112
02:54:10,439 --> 02:54:09,279
necessarily prime ministers and

4113
02:54:11,729 --> 02:54:10,449
presidents I don't know how much in the

4114
02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:11,739
loop they are I mean usually we talk

4115
02:54:14,489 --> 02:54:12,970
about people they're in for life right

4116
02:54:16,619 --> 02:54:14,499
these people in these projects they're

4117
02:54:18,569 --> 02:54:16,629
there for their whole life growing up

4118
02:54:20,130 --> 02:54:18,579
and goes a growth comes ago for these

4119
02:54:23,309 --> 02:54:20,140
people I think that they're interacting

4120
02:54:25,529 --> 02:54:23,319
more with these groups that are not

4121
02:54:27,269 --> 02:54:25,539
beneficial that are willing to give

4122
02:54:29,309 --> 02:54:27,279
information and stuff in return for

4123
02:54:32,039 --> 02:54:29,319
something you know rather than dealing

4124
02:54:33,809 --> 02:54:32,049
with the benefi or you know peaceful

4125
02:54:35,609 --> 02:54:33,819
groups that I think you know again if

4126
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:35,619
you look at our warlike behavior and all

4127
02:54:38,849 --> 02:54:36,970
those things there's mesh better the

4128
02:54:40,649 --> 02:54:38,859
idea that we're dealing with a warlike

4129
02:54:42,329 --> 02:54:40,659
group that is happy to help us on our

4130
02:54:44,429 --> 02:54:42,339
weapons technologies and that kind of

4131
02:54:46,889 --> 02:54:44,439
thing in exchange for something probably

4132
02:54:48,899 --> 02:54:46,899
DNA codes you know I'd say them the

4133
02:54:51,929 --> 02:54:48,909
focus has always been on DNA genetics

4134
02:54:53,309 --> 02:54:51,939
eggs were and all of that so the return

4135
02:54:54,569 --> 02:54:53,319
it's got to be so much energy but it's

4136
02:54:56,250 --> 02:54:54,579
not much else on this planet that is

4137
02:54:58,559 --> 02:54:56,260
actually that interesting this thing

4138
02:54:59,969 --> 02:54:58,569
that people think about it a gold you

4139
02:55:01,229 --> 02:54:59,979
know that comes up now because gold you

4140
02:55:03,210 --> 02:55:01,239
can get from the asteroid belt this

4141
02:55:06,539 --> 02:55:03,220
whole meteorites they're almost entirely

4142
02:55:08,429 --> 02:55:06,549
gold water there's water on the moon as

4143
02:55:09,449 --> 02:55:08,439
well on asteroids they're all the things

4144
02:55:11,189 --> 02:55:09,459
that people sort of say well maybe they

4145
02:55:12,869 --> 02:55:11,199
come here for our minerals well water or

4146
02:55:14,069 --> 02:55:12,879
I've got it's like no not really because

4147
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:14,079
all those things are available out there

4148
02:55:17,489 --> 02:55:15,760
in space the only thing that we have

4149
02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:17,499
this unique here is the life that's here

4150
02:55:21,479 --> 02:55:20,319
and the genetic codes right so that is

4151
02:55:22,769 --> 02:55:21,489
the only thing we have a particular

4152
02:55:24,719 --> 02:55:22,779
value to an extra star race so if

4153
02:55:27,149 --> 02:55:24,729
there's an exchange program you can bear

4154
02:55:29,039 --> 02:55:27,159
involved our genetics even our earth

4155
02:55:30,929 --> 02:55:29,049
animals plants or whatever but the DNA

4156
02:55:33,300 --> 02:55:30,939
codes on this planet would have value

4157
02:55:35,159 --> 02:55:33,310
okay so I suspect that there's a

4158
02:55:36,569 --> 02:55:35,169
trade-off going on between them and the

4159
02:55:38,340 --> 02:55:36,579
other groups and that the more

4160
02:55:39,899 --> 02:55:38,350
benevolent groups are kind of singing

4161
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:39,909
the wings waiting to see which way we go

4162
02:55:41,940 --> 02:55:40,690
because

4163
02:55:43,080 --> 02:55:41,950
imagine they just comes to me and saying

4164
02:55:45,150 --> 02:55:43,090
we can help you out and it looks like an

4165
02:55:46,200 --> 02:55:45,160
invasion right so this is another

4166
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:46,210
problem that we've got that it can

4167
02:55:48,960 --> 02:55:47,680
easily be spun as that's innately an

4168
02:55:50,180 --> 02:55:48,970
invasion and that could actually be the

4169
02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:50,190
cavalry

4170
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:52,960
how would the average person know right

4171
02:55:56,670 --> 02:55:55,120
well we're shooting first yeah we sure

4172
02:55:58,890 --> 02:55:56,680
we very says and if there's a hidden

4173
02:56:01,200 --> 02:55:58,900
group already here right then those

4174
02:56:02,910 --> 02:56:01,210
coming in look like the invaders right

4175
02:56:04,261 --> 02:56:02,920
so that's the kind of ironic situation

4176
02:56:05,551 --> 02:56:04,271
where they could be coming to help us

4177
02:56:07,230 --> 02:56:05,561
but you look like they were invaders

4178
02:56:08,551 --> 02:56:07,240
because the other group are already here

4179
02:56:10,350 --> 02:56:08,561
in their underground bases and stuff

4180
02:56:11,640 --> 02:56:10,360
right so we have this problem and that's

4181
02:56:13,770 --> 02:56:11,650
the way I view them I think that what we

4182
02:56:15,150 --> 02:56:13,780
have now is with this work and other

4183
02:56:16,500 --> 02:56:15,160
books that are coming out other people

4184
02:56:18,120 --> 02:56:16,510
that are relating the contact

4185
02:56:19,650 --> 02:56:18,130
information these are these beings are

4186
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:19,660
trying to acclimatize us and say look

4187
02:56:23,160 --> 02:56:21,130
you know we've got friends out there but

4188
02:56:24,841 --> 02:56:23,170
you guys need to kind of shift your

4189
02:56:26,280 --> 02:56:24,851
direction away from the negative of

4190
02:56:28,290 --> 02:56:26,290
those who can't really help you you know

4191
02:56:30,540 --> 02:56:28,300
you've got to break off these ties with

4192
02:56:32,131 --> 02:56:30,550
these other groups and start to ask for

4193
02:56:34,470 --> 02:56:32,141
you know a leadership that wants to work

4194
02:56:36,060 --> 02:56:34,480
with benevolent ETS and get rid of these

4195
02:56:40,261 --> 02:56:36,070
projects that are working with

4196
02:56:45,091 --> 02:56:40,271
negativities we've got about two minutes

4197
02:56:52,261 --> 02:56:45,101
lepers I want to get this in it seems

4198
02:56:55,110 --> 02:56:52,271
that it seems that we are being told

4199
02:56:58,650 --> 02:56:55,120
through the media and through our

4200
02:57:01,830 --> 02:56:58,660
government that something is eminent

4201
02:57:05,400 --> 02:57:01,840
when it comes to ET and knowledge okay

4202
02:57:09,750 --> 02:57:05,410
and it's it's it's it's palpable you can

4203
02:57:12,960 --> 02:57:09,760
touch it it's there what do you think

4204
02:57:14,280 --> 02:57:12,970
ultimately is going on yeah because

4205
02:57:16,051 --> 02:57:14,290
we've got obviously the in the last

4206
02:57:17,881 --> 02:57:16,061
three years the media has suddenly

4207
02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:17,891
turned his attention to the UFO topic

4208
02:57:23,580 --> 02:57:20,470
and aliens know no question about it

4209
02:57:24,660 --> 02:57:23,590
yeah very visible and now we can see

4210
02:57:26,040 --> 02:57:24,670
like one sort of talking we just said oh

4211
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:26,050
no they'll never tackle this stuff is

4212
02:57:30,091 --> 02:57:28,000
too crazy but now with coronavirus

4213
02:57:31,290 --> 02:57:30,101
economic collapse and brexit you know

4214
02:57:33,631 --> 02:57:31,300
these are the massive things going on

4215
02:57:36,210 --> 02:57:33,641
social change uprisings you know I think

4216
02:57:37,801 --> 02:57:36,220
we can all start to believe that this

4217
02:57:39,150 --> 02:57:37,811
stuff's coming you know there's going to

4218
02:57:40,591 --> 02:57:39,160
be something big coming in that

4219
02:57:41,940 --> 02:57:40,601
direction right

4220
02:57:43,890 --> 02:57:41,950
they really give us the thing that the

4221
02:57:45,540 --> 02:57:43,900
UFOs are real only they're real but they

4222
02:57:48,030 --> 02:57:45,550
can basically teleport around the sky

4223
02:57:49,320 --> 02:57:48,040
you know the 80 thousand feet to sea

4224
02:57:50,100 --> 02:57:49,330
level in under a second there's a

4225
02:57:52,040 --> 02:57:50,110
falling

4226
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:52,050
purposes like teleporting around right

4227
02:57:55,830 --> 02:57:54,730
and they're telling us that so this is

4228
02:57:57,780 --> 02:57:55,840
going somewhere and of course we've got

4229
02:57:59,490 --> 02:57:57,790
TTS a we got all of that you know this

4230
02:58:02,250 --> 02:57:59,500
is a obviously linked with all sorts of

4231
02:58:03,810 --> 02:58:02,260
government people right that each state

4232
02:58:05,940 --> 02:58:03,820
type people government people and people

4233
02:58:07,350 --> 02:58:05,950
spin that have they like but look it's

4234
02:58:08,700 --> 02:58:07,360
been well established now there's not

4235
02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:08,710
just the people on the board it's easier

4236
02:58:11,670 --> 02:58:10,000
said like that their connections there's

4237
02:58:13,140 --> 02:58:11,680
also people in this story there's all

4238
02:58:14,761 --> 02:58:13,150
sorts of people in this story people

4239
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:14,771
that we don't know the names of that are

4240
02:58:19,440 --> 02:58:17,650
also filtering into this UFO topic and

4241
02:58:21,750 --> 02:58:19,450
journalists that you know have been

4242
02:58:23,011 --> 02:58:21,760
waiting to be fed this story for a long

4243
02:58:23,370 --> 02:58:23,021
time so you know if you look at Richard

4244
02:58:24,480 --> 02:58:23,380
Doty

4245
02:58:26,250 --> 02:58:24,490
and if people don't know him looking

4246
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about it emerges a man who's not that

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super trust forever you know I agree on

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one point he said look that the Air

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Force and others were always paying off

4250
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certain journalists and paying off

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02:58:35,011 --> 02:58:33,970
certain ufologist and also they've

4252
02:58:37,020 --> 02:58:35,021
always had their finger in that pie

4253
02:58:38,340 --> 02:58:37,030
ready for something right and this is

4254
02:58:41,580 --> 02:58:38,350
the something that there's a they're

4255
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:41,590
gonna unfold something on us okay now

4256
02:58:44,940 --> 02:58:42,850
there's community to see where that goes

4257
02:58:48,030 --> 02:58:44,950
because I think we are actually having a

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02:58:49,801 --> 02:58:48,040
ramped up in contact itself but I do

4259
02:58:51,801 --> 02:58:49,811
wonder what the angles going to be from

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the government whether we're gonna get

4261
02:58:56,310 --> 02:58:54,640
you know spun some sort of this fret

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02:58:59,190 --> 02:58:56,320
narrative and that maybe they're gonna

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02:59:01,350 --> 02:58:59,200
spin it that the benevolent et or the

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fret right and this was sending out

4265
02:59:05,070 --> 02:59:02,890
before that well if there is a group

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02:59:06,540 --> 02:59:05,080
that wants to help us right and then it

4267
02:59:08,190 --> 02:59:06,550
gets spun is the fret and we're supposed

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02:59:09,960 --> 02:59:08,200
to weaponize and start fighting them I

4269
02:59:11,490 --> 02:59:09,970
mean this is that would be horrific but

4270
02:59:13,500 --> 02:59:11,500
that is a possible scenario we could be

4271
02:59:15,420 --> 02:59:13,510
really careful we don't get dragged into

4272
02:59:16,710 --> 02:59:15,430
shooting down you know entities are

4273
02:59:17,970 --> 02:59:16,720
trying to shoot that entities they're

4274
02:59:19,950 --> 02:59:17,980
trying to help us right or something

4275
02:59:21,210 --> 02:59:19,960
crazy like that because we've got really

4276
02:59:22,980 --> 02:59:21,220
mindful that if there's another group

4277
02:59:24,420 --> 02:59:22,990
here influencing us they're gonna

4278
02:59:29,960 --> 02:59:24,430
influence us to open fire on their

4279
02:59:34,950 --> 02:59:29,970
enemies yeah I think we need to

4280
02:59:38,100 --> 02:59:34,960
seriously seriously calm down anyone no

4281
02:59:40,801 --> 02:59:38,110
no we made all know we need to calm down

4282
02:59:42,420 --> 02:59:40,811
because we're also being observed right

4283
02:59:45,120 --> 02:59:42,430
and they're watching what's going on in

4284
02:59:47,610 --> 02:59:45,130
this planet right now there's no

4285
02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:47,620
question about that and we have lunches

4286
02:59:52,860 --> 02:59:49,690
yeah we have to demonstrate we have to

4287
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:52,870
demonstrate Bruce thank you so much man

4288
02:59:58,051 --> 02:59:55,120
and and again the book is available

4289
03:00:01,410 --> 02:59:58,061
right now on Amazon we have the links

4290
03:00:02,229 --> 03:00:01,420
for it over at Jimmy Church radio calm

4291
03:00:03,880 --> 03:00:02,239
you got

4292
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get over here to the states and

4293
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hopefully in 2021 come over and speak

4294
03:00:12,039 --> 03:00:09,439
and we can hang out that'd be awesome

4295
03:00:14,319 --> 03:00:12,049
love to now we'll be over in London

4296
03:00:16,809 --> 03:00:14,329
we'll be in Manchester

4297
03:00:18,819 --> 03:00:16,819
we'll be over and then UK next year so

4298
03:00:20,079 --> 03:00:18,829
come and hang out with this man I would

4299
03:00:23,260 --> 03:00:20,089
definitely be that I'd definitely be

4300
03:00:25,329 --> 03:00:23,270
that Bruce our Fenton we just went

4301
03:00:27,519 --> 03:00:25,339
we just want coast to coast man we went

4302
03:00:30,149 --> 03:00:27,529
pole to pole Bruce thank you so much

4303
03:00:33,039 --> 03:00:30,159
it's awesome there's another Wilson shot

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network i'm your host jimmy church

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03:01:14,439 --> 03:01:12,680
tomorrow night is Fator night open lines

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03:01:17,079 --> 03:01:14,449
all night long

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03:01:19,329 --> 03:01:17,089
very special thanks to Bruce our Fenton

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03:01:22,960 --> 03:01:19,339
and of course his wife Daniela the new

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book XO Genesis human hybrids a

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03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:25,310
scientific history of extraterrestrial

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03:01:32,289 --> 03:01:29,890
genetic manipulation but la manipulation

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03:01:35,079 --> 03:01:32,299
the links for it over at Jimmy Turks

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03:01:37,840 --> 03:01:35,089
radio.com army Oh Jimmy Church I'll see

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everybody tomorrow night be saved